Episode 145 - Analog Nostalgia In A Digital World

Big hats are funny until they turn into a theme: how much of what we love is about the vibe, and how much has to actually work in real life. We kick things off with the debut of the “noggin” hat, then get serious about a very specific piece of nostalgia tech a Bluetooth cassette player with USB-C and aux. The question is simple: can you relive your old tape collection in a modern truck without it becoming a daily headache, and does that scratchy sound still hit the way you remember?

From there, we zoom out into why the past looks different now. Old NBA clips, classic movies, and retro video games didn’t “get worse” but modern 4K screens and streaming compression expose every limitation. We talk Blu-ray vs streaming quality, why store TV demos look unreal compared to home setups, and how practical effects like green screen can suddenly look obvious when the image is too clean.

Then we hit the modern flip side of “too real”: AI and staged viral videos. We break down the easy tells physics that don’t match, perfect smoke and splatter, missing glass shards, and suspiciously convenient filming. We also get into real money topics: car market markups, why a pro negotiator can save you thousands, fuel prices over $5, and how small business owners think about overhead, labor rates, and staying fair without giving work away. If you enjoy honest shop talk mixed with nostalgia, media literacy, and a few culture detours, tap play, subscribe, and share this with a friend then tell us what piece of old tech you’d bring back if it actually worked today.

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Transcript

Streak Reset And New Hat

Mig 0:11

Welcome back to the Drifting on Arroyo Podcast. This is Mig. This is Lano. RK67. We were close. We were so close to being on a streak. But our producer. We already no, we had two. We had two in a row. Red two. Red two, yeah. Yeah, but when we first got back on it, we were already. No, but I'm saying this this last week, our producer for whatever reason canceled. Shaving his legs or his ass or I don't know what. Decided he couldn't do it. But last week we had three shows in a row. As everybody knows, that would have been a streak. And now we start all over again.

Lano 0:56

I forgot what the reason was, but we had we had to cancel it for I forgot. I had to do something. I don't know what it was. Whatever.

Mig 1:04

The big news. Talk about it. What is it?

Lano 1:10

My hat.

Mig 1:11

Rick Rick finally found a hat that fits his big head.

Lano 1:14

Um we we ordered a show, um, noggin hat. And um Rick's Rick's modeling it today. We're gonna take it out on um promotional runs when we do um events. Food, um, what is it, food reviews or whatever we wear it, or just um trying trying to draw attention to ourselves. Whoever's going to party needs to borrow it, let me know. We'll have a sign out, check out the list, whatever. We'll sign out and borrow the hat and come back.

Speaker 4 1:39

Yeah.

Lano 1:39

But he's debuting the new hat, the noggin. Can you hear what that dodger blue?

Mig 1:44

Yeah, I can hear it. But I mean, I got I got the earphones barely on. Yeah. But I was able to hear the theme music pretty good. So if you play a soundbite, let's see, hit a soundbite. See if I can hear it. Yeah. I can hear it. It's like surround sound, dude. We were about to watch the Love Boat or what?

Lano 2:03

But we we finally found a hat big enough for Ricky's head.

Mig 2:06

My head's not that big, man.

Bluetooth Cassette Player Experiment

Lano 2:09

But um, oh, so I have something for me. Was it you who said you found the uh like a collection of tapes and stuff? CDs. CDs? CDs, CDs.

Mig 2:18

Oh, CDs, not cassette tapes? No, but I told you I have my my cassettes.

Lano 2:23

But you you can't play them in your car, right? No. Alright, so I saw this on Amazon. You're gonna you're gonna test it out. But it's a cassette. It was only 25 bucks. It's right in front of you. Yeah, get it right in front of you. Oh it's a it's a looking up at the screen. I'm thinking he's gonna put something up on the screen. It's a cassette deck that has um USB-C, um, auxiliary, and Bluetooth. Oh, nice. So I want to see if you can connect it to Bluetooth to your car. And we're we're gonna see um, well, connect it to your truck, test it out for a week, and then tell us how how it works. But uh, we're gonna relive um Miggy's dreams of with the cassette player back in the truck. Yeah. Back in the last time I saw it, it was like 25 bucks, and I was like, I'm gonna get this because back in the late 80s, early 90s. You know, everybody looks like Walkman. Yeah, there's like a walkman because I think Ricky Ricky was like, find out, find out.

Mig 3:20

Yeah, even all the buttons up here on top and everything.

Lano 3:22

So it's USB C auxiliary and then Bluetooth. So pop some tapes in there, take your little what do they call them? The cassette like um briefcase or what is it, the little holder? Yeah, the case logic. The case logic, put it in there and then let's see if it test it out. If it's a hassle, or you like streaming better, like see what what what way, what what's the best way now that when you do it, play both on record and then post it on the get to listen to some rhyme pays again, man. And and see how the CD, how I mean not the CD, the tape, how the quality, how it sounds.

Mig 3:54

I'm pretty sure it's gonna be like all scratchy and everything. It's not gonna be but that's the way we heard it's clear as what we're used to, you know. But you know, I'll put in the Sir Mix a lot and Kid Sensation. Kid Sensation and see how that bass hits.

Lano 4:09

You guys ever watch um very cool like on YouTube? Old um Thank you, Lono. No, no, no problem. Old like NBA games or something like that, and like like the Jordan games, and you see how um how grainy the footage is? Is that the way we watched it, or is that just like the quality of the tape that it's aged?

Mig 4:28

Yeah, I mean you look at it and no, it's just the way it aged.

Lano 4:31

I mean that's the way it aged. That's not the way we saw it clear, right? Or we saw it messed up.

Mig 4:35

It was clear to us, but like our eyes back.

Lano 4:38

I mean, but now I mean I guess it could be football too, but I just noticed some basketball.

Mig 4:42

You know, because now your eyes are so used to the 4K and everything. You don't think um when they were broadcasting it, like live on TV, it was closer, and it was it was a lot clearer. The the announcers or who? Or would you? Yeah, just the game. Like, yeah, when they show the the the game footage of up high, uh-huh. Yeah, that's kind of greeny.

Lano 5:04

Yeah, yeah.

Mig 5:05

But um oh, but like courtside cameras?

Lano 5:07

Yeah.

Mig 5:08

I mean, that's only like for the replays that would show those, but I mean, yeah, but I mean the thing also depended on the quality of your TV. Because you know, everything was a tube TV back then, so look better on tube TV. You know, it's only gonna look so good. Yeah, even even though there were it's like it's like on um when you replay a a video on a big TV, it's distorted. Kind of when you play it on a smaller TV, it gets more crystal. Oh, true. Because the pixels are smaller, they're tighter in there. That the camera, the camera footage, yeah, was was that that technology, whatever, was made for tube TV, which it came out clear for us. I think. I did see a video like on um I think of that when we when they play old games.

Lano 5:54

On on video games, I saw that they said that they're designed for like tube TVs because like the colors would like uh.

Mig 6:00

Yeah, because I remember I remember playing those damn games. They weren't and then you play them on today's TV and they don't have to be like, was that how I playing it? Like I was all like hyped up over these graphics. Right. You know they couldn't have been that bad. You know that that's funny though, because even even today, it's like if you walk in, like say to Sam's or Costco or whatever, yeah, and you look at the TVs, look at the picture. Look at how damn crisp and clear and just so lifelike that it looks like. And it's like I look at that, I'm like, why does my shit look like that at home? It's like aren't aren't I buying the same TV? Yeah, it's like the same TV, same monster cables, yeah, same and it doesn't look like that. It's like why? That's the big TVs, it's like, and I thought my receiver was a 4K receiver and all this bullshit. It's like so I mean, I don't know. It could be the demo of whatever video they're playing. That could be where it's really high def.

Lano 7:02

Yeah, the best quality demo, whatever it is, the best camera, everything productions.

Mig 7:07

I I was I was at at Mark's and he was I was checking out his his his little game room, his little man cave. Yeah, and we were watching it, right? It was like crazy watching his TV, and I go, and I remember when 300 first came out, right? Like how high def it was and everything, right? And I wanted to see how it was, and I it wasn't like I remembered it. Oh no, like the graphics that look it's different from I think when we saw it, we saw it on a Blu-ray uh DVD player, a Blu-ray. Okay, yeah, yeah. So that the CD had a really like crisp picture, like where the snowflakes were falling, everything looked like crazy, like realistic. And I think that like the CD, the actual C D like what's streamed now, regardless of what 4K, whatever TV is, and whatever they're streaming at, it's not gonna compare to the CD. Cause it depends what they're playing. Yeah. Are they playing like something that was remastered on the Blu-ray or Yeah, yeah, I get it. You lose quality of that. You know what's crazy though? Cause me, you know, I'm stuck on just watching the same shit over and over. It's like I don't care, dude, if any of the original trilogy of the Indiana Jones is on, I'll put it on and I'll watch it. You know, I don't give a shit. And it's funny because you watch it and you see like a lot of the the green screen magic or yeah, what uh the equivalent today would be CGI or AI now. You know, it's like you know we see it now, like on your TV where your reception is so clear and everything is so defined and everything, yeah, and you see how bad the blue screen looked back then, you know, like it just like totally looks out of place.

Lano 8:55

I noticed that on the James Bond, the Pierce Bronson ones. Yeah, it looks really bad, like the scenes of like what it's like.

Mig 9:01

But then think about it back when you first saw it, all that shit looked real.

Lano 9:07

You thought he was outside or whatever.

Spotting AI And Staged Videos

Mig 9:08

You know, because of you know, your your screen's not that defined. You know, it's like they could hide it in in the quality of the of the film, of the film or you know, of the whatever it's broadcasting on. But you know what? You notice it now. It's no different from that that that bullshit AI shit. Like when you see a video of AI, yeah, you can kind of see cut out, like you could tell that yeah, oh, that's an AI video, because it it's something's misplaced. Yeah, it's something something or the head pushes backwards. I get sent so many videos, you know, where people are like telling me they're shocked, you know, this is this real and it's like I'm looking at it, and it's like I look at it. No, man, that's fake. Yeah, it's like look at it's like look at the the arm, it's like the perfect placement, like perfect one I saw. They didn't send it to me, but I saw it. Supposedly this like over seven foot tall chick. You know, at the gas station, yeah, something like that. Or she, but she's like sexy as hell. You know, it's like she doesn't look like misproportioned or nothing, she looks perfectly proportioned, yeah. You know, and then like she's standing next to someone, and I'm like, nah, it doesn't look right. And then like she goes to pick him up, and it's like it's such a smooth, effortless pickup, like you see no strain or nothing in her picking this dude up. I'm like, that's bullshit. Yeah, right, right. That ain't real. That's how you can tell. It's like, but well, yeah, there's cues, you know, you could you could pick up on it. And it's like the most obvious ones are the one where they're they're seeing like a fat person fall through the floor and shit. I'm like, come on, man. I'm like, like they trip or something, and then the floor hanging in on a tree the whole time. I was gonna send you guys one. I was gonna send you guys one where it was stupid, where this this dude had um these 90s, he had his fingers in in like 90s, like galvanized 90s. Uh-huh. Stuck and he says, like, 28 days with this, and I can't take it no more. And he's like hammering them and trying to pull them off, and it just looks all stupid, like his hands all like like brown, and he's trying to get these things off is like stupid. Like, why why would someone put them and then have it on there for like 90 days? And then you're like, you're banging it with a hammer, and then trying to pull them off with like some vice grapes or something. It's like stupid, man. And then that's when you start reading the the comments, and then people are saying, like, oh man, I AI is out of control, and this and that, and like that's why a lot of them I don't even I don't even um click on, dude. Like the ones that they used to send me early on were the ones of people in the bathroom, they're taking a dump. And some wild animal jumps in through the window and starts kicking on everything, and they're like, Can you believe this? I'm like, I'm like, first of all, I'm like, it's fake. How can you tell it's fake? I'm like, who records himself taking a shit? First of all. That's I tell you and look at the look at the way the animal jumps through the window. There's no shards of glass that come out or nothing. It just breaks through the window perfectly, you know. There's no that's all the the the the animals that they that are coming. Um they're like, oh, look what what the dog brought in, like bringing in a little baby bobcat. Yeah. Right, yeah, yeah. From outside or some stupid shit. You know, uh a damn alligator and uh damn in the dog's. It's like, you know what? If you're gonna send me something AI, just make sure it's funny. You know, it's like I know it's gonna, but don't send me something thinking. You know, I think this is incredible, you know. I sent one to Mark of and I I mean, I asked him if it was AI or not, but I don't know, man. Some of these guys are are pretty badass on these band on back holes and bobcats. Oh uh. This this this one dude, uh, he he um he like he it wasn't a bobcat. He went forward, tilted it up, and then like he moved back. He moved it like with on the front two wheels with the with the bucket on the floor like that. So he just moved it back, and then he he backed it up to the trailer, and then with the bucket lifted it up, and then he was able like to lift the front end and then just drive into the the trailer. I would believe that. I would believe that. I'm I don't know, I'm still kind of iffy, but I would believe that because those dudes and the stuff that those dudes do on those damn back holes, man. Oh, they watch uh watch uh watch a gold rush. Oh yeah, gold rush, they they do it's like you see they're not necessarily crazy stuff that they're not necessarily doing that, but you see what those back holes are. The maneuvers, the way they gotta maneuver over like when they gotta go over something or or shift over the room. Either that or remember that show Axemen? Yeah, that was another one. That's no more, huh?

Lano 14:04

They finished?

Mig 14:04

No, you know, there's a there's a new one though. It's called um oh, what is it called? They came out with another one though. It's it's maybe Woodsman or same idea? Same idea of Axemen. Yeah. Yeah, but one thing I I've gotten into lately on Instagram and like I I hit follow so I can see his videos. This is some dude that does commentary just like on uh like people trying to uh like fight or you know, rob people and they mess around. It's uh it's a FAFO. Yeah, you know, and so this dude's like doing the commentary shit. It's like he'll be he'll put like ludicrous's move bitch, get out the way, and he'll call he'll call it the ludicrous cam. Yeah. It's so funny. Dude, you should see one this this one dude that um you ever see that one guy that does the the play by play for the the baseball? He does voiceovers. It's like when something happens in a baseball game, like say a pitcher hits a batter or whatever.

Lano 15:15

Oh, I think I've seen him.

Mig 15:16

That one dude. Oh, okay. Yeah, he but he he says it word for word, but like the voice, right? He like reenacts it.

Lano 15:23

Yeah, like the when the coaches are fighting with the umpire, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mig 15:27

The dude knows what they're saying because you can see what the lip reads them, yeah. He can lit, it's like he can probably lip read. Yeah. And then he just he reenacts it in his voice. Like, and then like if one's pissed off, whatever, he'll do it like that, like like depending if they're yelling or they're they're pissed off, or like, but the dude is so good, man. I I gotta get his I gotta get his um He popped up.

Lano 15:48

I saw him because um the baseball has some new like where they review the call or something, they tap the helmet. Yeah, that's when I saw he was doing that, and then I saw when it was like the the NCAA tournament for the girls. Like um some coach like gave some girl a pep talk. Yeah, and then um then she started like bawling again or whatever, and he's all like, get your head in the game, like he's all screaming. No, that dude's good, man. Looks funny.

Mig 16:12

He's all like screaming. Yeah, that's a good uh that's a good uh uh channel. Oh getting getting back to the to the bullshit AI things, the one thing that got most played out was the instant karma on all those uh porch pirates. Uh those stupid packages blowing up. So there's they're shaking up it's like it's like even even more, it's like it blows up okay, but then people come back and demand yeah, show out the camera or you know, something no that well is it well it's AI or is it them just setting up like their their um they're actually happening happening? I think it's both. They they're actually doing it. There's it's a setup, but are they actually doing it to themselves? Or is it AI? I think so. I don't know. I think it's AI. Yeah, because they wouldn't like paint their car, you know, like pop a thing up and splash their car. No, yeah, because that and you know, it's like when when they um they open the thing and it puffs open, it's like how is it the soul perfectly covers them?

Speaker 4 17:23

Yeah.

Mig 17:24

Like perfectly douses them. Yeah. It's like you open their eyes, you can see that. Yeah, it's not it's not gonna be perfect like that. I mean, come on. One one uh another stuff, I don't it's it's I don't think it well, it's not it's not AI, but it's like bullshit. All these uh catching your your wife or your girlfriend cheating. Oh yeah. It's like, oh, and they they use an app to catch them that they're on Tinder or whatever. It's like, oh, you're arguing with your chick and you just so happen like you're recording the whole conversation.

Rick 17:53

Yeah.

Mig 17:54

Or you go over there and like you're over there catching the your girl or whatever your dude and and cheating, and you're right there filming everything. You're you're talking and you're you're filming it, right? And then you got you got both it's like stupid, man.

Lano 18:08

Both audios of the phone call, the other side, and then you're side, like you wouldn't be able to hear the yeah, that's just it's just stupid, man.

Paying A Pro To Buy Cars

Mig 18:14

The the stuff that people are doing. There's people out there that are gullable boy and believe it. That's why I don't whatever YouTube I I watch, I watch people that I actually know the channels and they're real people and they're doing their channel. Like two reviews or you know what popped up a bunch of like car stuff for me is that guy you showed me that driven.

Lano 18:35

Yeah, the one that does like um it popped up like I don't know if it was like Wall Street Journal, but like they interview him, like how he started his business and stuff. Did you have you seen that one? No, no, he has like six employees, and yeah, he says he averages like four thousand dollars off per vehicle. I think he's up to like nine employees now. But did you hear it? Offset. Uh oh, I just saw that that one report because it it popped up, and then um like he he's making like a lot of money, dude. Dude, yeah. Well, I mean, just that business he thought of, like I mean, yeah.

Mig 19:04

I mean he's he charges the flat rate of a thousand dollars. Yeah. Which people probably like, I'm not gonna pay him a thousand dollars. Well, you're gonna go then by yourself and you're gonna get screwed in a loan that's gonna cost you like twenty thousand dollars.

Rick 19:19

Yeah.

Mig 19:20

Where this guy's gonna negotiate, get you a discount, you know. He's gonna save save you the the whole headache of dealing with those stupid, you know, salesmen. Man, it's it's a headache, man. I mean, yeah, take it from someone that's gone through that whole process of that he does he does that and he knows the car market, yeah, what each car is going for. So he just they already know that research. They they all the research that you like a car and he already knows how it's going, if it's at MSRP or if it's getting discounted. He he has his his um his software, whatever the what he looks up, and it shows him okay, this dealer has this, this dealer has that, this dealer's had that car for like three months just sitting on the lot, so he could use that as a negotiating thing. You know, so he he gets he knows all that information. Right there, yeah. Wow. Where someone's gonna tell me, like, oh, well, this this is a popular car, it's a hot car. That's worth it. Yeah. So everyone knows all that, and you think for a thousand dollars and he's gonna negotiate all that. That shit's a bargain. And then all he's gonna do is call you up, is like, hey, I got you three thousand, three thousand dollars FMSRP, and then plus whatever rebate, and you know, it's it's just it's worth it.

Lano 20:35

Well, you know what I what I saw today was um remember I told you that that ID buzz, that's the the Volkswagen bus, the electric one. Oh, yeah. They're not gonna um make a 2027 model or 2026, whatever the new model is. It's not selling. It's not selling. So and they lowered the price to 49,000.

Rick 20:52

Uh-huh.

Lano 20:53

But they're saying that when it came out, like dealers were were like um um bringing it up to like 100 G's. Um, marking it up to 100 G's or like a hot seller, like 100 G's, and then they they kind of shot this on the switch and then they couldn't sell it at that price, and then now they got all these extras and they're not gonna make it. Now it's like 49 grand.

Mig 21:12

What was the MSRP on those things?

Lano 21:15

I think it was like 60. I don't know, I have to double check. But now it's it's down to 49. So they were marking it up $40,000. Yeah, they're marking it up like past the whole damn car trying to get the whole um nostalgia people to buy it. Saying it's hot, it's a hot ticket over like yeah.

Mig 21:30

But it's not only that, there was a period of time when the whole car market in general was marking up oh yeah, everything like ridiculous. Yeah, well, yeah, that's why shortage or something, yeah. Something like that. That's why those uh those Ford Lightnings, those all electric, the the pickups, those things were selling for no less than 105 grand. That was a joke. I'm like, are you kidding me? That was a joke. I remember seeing a dude review that damn lightning, and he was having nothing but problems. Couldn't pull shit. The the distance wasn't there. It was just a headache getting that stupid electric truck. Well, I mean, I don't know why they wouldn't get that. Like as far as the truck, I don't know why the hell anybody would go electric. Yeah. Nah, nah, not at all. That's just that's stupid. Yeah. I mean, I'd I'd barely be on board for a hybrid. Barely. Yeah. But not even that, because the weight of those batteries is just gonna kill whatever toll rating you have on the truck. Yeah. You know, because you're having to carry all that weight of the batteries. Like you're better, you're just just better an engine.

Lano 22:39

The hybrid, those are the ones that like they turn off and stuff, like at the stop signs? Like they'll turn off and go later.

Mig 22:45

No, the the hybrids, um, depending on the power demand, will turn on to like keep the the car charged. It it's gas sign electric, man. Yeah. Like a Prius. Oh, right, right. Prius. Yeah, because the pre the Prius will go so far, you know. But if it feels like it needs more demand and the power is not there in the battery, then the engine kicks in. Yeah. And then the Prius, you don't charge. No. There's some plugins, but there is a specific one called the plug-in model, right?

Lano 23:17

Prius plug-in. Oh. But then the regular ones um are just Marcos had when we were at Neptune, Marcos had a Prius.

Mig 23:22

He loved that thing. Well, so did uh James. Oh yeah. I remember one time going going out, driving out with them one of our golf trips. Uh-huh. We were in a pre in the Prius. Yeah.

Lano 23:33

Because of the range, you just liked it, like the mileage or what just get in there and go.

Mig 23:37

Yeah. Yeah, you get it.

Lano 23:39

What's what's gas right now? I don't even know.

Mig 23:41

It's up there. It's expensive. It's already like I was able to get it at 519. Where? Yesterday. 7 Eleven. 7 Eleven? Google said he saw it somewhere at 509. On um Haven? On Del Mar. Haven? Del Mar. No, he thinks he was saying something about Haven, like way out there. Oh no, uh off of Del Mar. Uh huh. There's a gas station that was closed for a long time, like getting off the freeway or getting off the fast track. Yeah. Well, just getting off the freeway exit. If you start heading towards Valley, there's a little gas station on the left side. They were closed for a long time and they were always like the cheapest that I would see.

Speaker 4 24:22

Uh-huh.

Mig 24:23

Today I just drove by it and they opened it up again because it was closed for like almost a year. I think they were changing out the tanks or something. But today I just drove by it right now, and their cash price was $509. Dang. Cash. Cash.

Lano 24:39

Now, you guys are both business owners. How high does it have to get for you guys to like get the razor prices or your labor price? Because you, I mean, your your vehicles, you're a mobile service, so like you're paying for gas. I don't know.

Mig 24:53

Do you nitpick like that much? Like as far as like gas? Well, James and Marcos are more familiar with that because they're the they're the ones that that bid jobs. Yeah. So they add that into it, like do you think about it or no? I'm still so much out in the field. I mean, because us for the most part, we've never really figured like a fuel surcharge, even though we do a lot of driving, whether it be in the actual shop truck or they account for the certain percentage of the overhead. So I'm I'm sure they'll they they adjust. But I I mean I guess I kind of do because if I'm driving around all over the place to get parts here and there for like a certain job, you know, and then once we get it done, you know, I calculate the hours of what the job should be. And then if I figured if I had to drive around a lot or go back and forth a lot or whatever, I might add like maybe another half hour of labor or something. We should we you know what we should because no, we definitely we should. Like when we gotta order, get an operator, a backhoe operator, yeah, and they bring out the damn machine of that. You know, they charge extra. They do like a trip charge for the adjusted, so that's that's that's what I'm saying. It's like, but but us being like so small, I know it's something we should be doing, and you can improve your profits, right?

Lano 26:22

Like, I mean you're because you're eating that gas. I mean you're paying six dollars now before maybe a year ago you're paying four dollars.

Mig 26:30

I mean, I don't know how you guys calculate your overhead. You're you're you're bidding the you're you're you're giving the price of the job, laboring parts, but you have overhead. Are you including that? Are you including that in your well that that's the thing? We rarely ever have to give bids. We just do the work and then I calculate shit after. All right, so when you're calculating, you gotta calculate whatever percentage of overhead you have. Where it's it's it's your gas, you know, and um have you ever raised your labor?

Lano 27:02

Yeah, your price? Yeah, what were the reasons just to make money or just to just be cost of living or not? Yeah, yeah.

Mig 27:11

Labor, labor, the labor for the job materials, and then whatever overhead the overhead you got. Look, me cover it. I've I've always wanted to stay competitive, like with kind of like with other shops, or like to be compared with the dealership. Run out of dealership, their hourly labor rate, I believe it's up around 250 an hour.

Lano 27:36

But you actually like you verify or you you're getting away.

Mig 27:38

Yeah, when I'm there, you know, they they post their prices.

Lano 27:40

Oh, okay.

Mig 27:41

You know, so they're they're like at 250 an hour. So that's dealership. Other mechanics might be anywhere between 170 to 200. You know, so for I think we're on the very low end, but that's right, we just keep the customers that we have. But keeping it at that low end, I might add like another hour of labor or so to kind of like make up for not charging more hourly rate.

Lano 28:22

You know, so besides vehicles, do you have any other tools that use like gas?

Mig 28:29

We we used to use a compressor, but now we got battery operated everything. So I mean, but like overhead is like obviously the the the gas for the car, our whatever whatever, whatever spray, whatever WD40, whatever silicone or whatever, all that's that's all overhead. So it has to you have to cover that that too. You have to cover all that, whatever you're using on in the job to, you know. Yeah, I mean, we we don't really keep tabs that tightly that close. Because if it's not allowed, then you just you don't have to you don't have to add so much to the so it's like you're saying, you know, like a Canada WD40. I'm gonna do a job, say I'm gonna do a brake job, and the lug nuts on the wheel are kind of rusty, so I'm just gonna spray them once. But yeah, no, but it's not it's not what are you gonna do? It's not um, it's just a small percentage you can add to it. It's not like you're keeping track of every damn spray, it's just a little certain percentage. No, I I I can't get what you're saying because we've come across mechanics that they nitpick and they nickel and dime you for every little thing. Yeah, it's like we've seen the invoices where they charge them for the rags, they charge them for the soap that they use to wash their hands, they charge them for all that's over here, you know. Yeah, you know, but we kind of we don't and it doesn't have to you don't have to show that, just include that in the damn materials, yeah. So so right now with the price point that we're at right now, that's why we're actually we're showing profit now. Yeah, because it's like whatever the part the parts that you're you're doing for this part for the truck, because all those whatever all those years that my dad was in charge, he was always so afraid to charge more than what we should have. And I always said we should be charging more, dude. Yeah, no, no, because then the customers are gonna get mad, you know, we're gonna lose them. It's like we're not gonna lose them, dude. It's because we're still cheaper than everybody else. We work better than everybody else, we work faster than everybody else. You're more reliable. I thought if we lose them, we lose them for like a few months. Yeah, they go try someone else, they get burned, and they come back to us. It's like we're all around the clock. Like yeah, they're calling at them 10 o'clock at night. Yeah, and something's broken down in damn bakersfield and you do that, right? Like emergency. I didn't that you still he still wouldn't charge them uh what he should have been charging. After hours, yeah. After hours when I when there's an after hour call, believe me, did I put it on their after hour call to so-and-so, whatever, like you know, and he wouldn't do that. It's like that's damn cheap as hell, yeah. But um, but no, I mean I I try to keep it fair, you know, but I don't want to give away the work anymore. Yeah, you know, and the thing is that's where we have the luxury to keep the customers or the like I don't I say contract in air quotes because we don't really have contracts with them. We just it's just like a handshake understanding. Yeah, you know, it's like if they don't want to use us anymore, then feel free to find someone else. You know, but the customers that we're able to keep, we're able to keep them because our service is on point. You know, it it's we're there when they need us. Yeah. And if we I think us that's the more that's the more reliable. I think it's that's the the best quality is that how yeah dependent. I mean how how reliable you guys are, and yeah, you know, you're you're there right away whenever you're like in like something happens to the trucks, yeah, you guys are there right away. Like in a big business sense, you can't beat our customer service. Yeah, that's what it comes down to. And that's why we've kept who we've kept. And since it's just two of us, we have the luxury of just keeping a small number of those really good accounts that we put we work with. Focus 100% on and we turn other people away. Yeah, because we don't want our focus to be taken away from who we have. You're breadwinners or whatever's accounts, and then right now I'm telling you, our biggest account, they keep growing and growing, and they just keep us busier and busier.

Lano 32:57

So now, like you do oil changes, right? Yeah, that's like a flat fee.

Mig 33:04

Oil changes. Like at all the same price, or labor, yes.

Lano 33:07

Uh-huh. But like you charge them for like how many quarts of oil, or it depends on the vehicle.

Mig 33:13

And you know the price of the heavy thing, or you charge them at the time. Then you gotta charge them the disposal of the oil too. Oh uh. Or tires too, don't they do that for tires? Yeah, I'm gonna I'm telling you, we should, but we never have. But it's kind of included in the labor price, really. Yeah, all right. You know, so right now I charge for labor on an oil change, which is gonna include, you know, the oil change, any fuel filters if it has any. We're gonna lube the chassis, we're gonna check your belts, your hoses, your fluid levels, top off any levels that need to be topped off. And just like in general, just give it a quick look around. Yeah, so we charge the loop for just for the lube part for just labor alone on that, we're right at just under 200 bucks.

Lano 34:07

Well, that's pretty good because I think a regular oil chain is like 100 bucks for a regular car and you're doing diesel. Yeah, but that that's just labor. Oh uh.

Mig 34:14

That's not including any of the materials. Oh okay. So then after when, because right now, what what's stupid and ridiculous is the prices of fuel filters. Oh, and then uh like new modern oil filters, uh-huh. Just then that alone comes out to about the same amount of what we're charging labor. Damn. Yeah, yeah, because you're talking about on the big trucks. On the big trucks, yeah, or not not even that big, you know. It's like because like I was gonna tell you today, for instance, yeah, we just finished working on um it's a toll truck, you know, but it's a dodge, it's a diesel dodge truck of 5500. Uh-huh. So, you know, oil filter was cheap, but the fuel filters are almost like it uses two of them, and each filter is like 50 bucks each. And they're just like cartridges. Yeah. You take out uh housing and it's just a cartridge, right? Yep, yeah. You know, and then on the bigger trucks, they get closer to like a hundred dollars a filter. You know, so it gets what's what's the intervals, the low change intervals for the big trucks? Big trucks we tell them they can go up to like ten thousand, ten to fifteen. You know, depending on the um the driving that they do. You know, if it's more local, like just uh city, we'll tell them maybe six or seven. You know, but it ultimately it's up to the customer. Whatever they decide.

Lano 35:54

Yeah. But you don't um you just grab the filter, right? Or you let them pick like this high quality filter or low quality filter? You just do it.

Mig 36:03

No, I buy the filters.

Lano 36:04

Often you do it all changed, though. I don't have what the Tesla I don't have to do. All I gotta do is wash the car. I never. I try to do it every week.

Mig 36:12

I when was the last time you changed everyone in your tires?

Lano 36:15

Um actually I um two of them are over out of decrease air, but yeah. That was two weeks ago. I checked. Normally before every big road trip, I'll check the tires. Do you do you put nitrogen in the tires? No. I know Costco used to do that, but I don't go to Costco no more.

Dream Trucks And Off Road Memories

Mig 36:29

Now it's I'm a Mercus. Hey, I just I just got my my little Toyota back on the road. The little Nighty Toyota. Oh they they put a new engine in it. Hey, that that video that Mark the Shark sent us? Which one? Of the Back to the Future Toyota? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, that truck. From when I first saw that thing on Back to the Future, yeah, oh, I fell in love with that truck.

Lano 36:55

That truck is so nice.

Mig 36:57

Oh, that was like my dream truck, dude, when I was a kid.

Lano 36:59

You guys remember some toys um like Hot Wheels called Stompers?

Mig 37:03

That sounds familiar.

Lano 37:04

It's like little trucks, but that's like to me, that's like a Stomper truck. It was like a little like a little truck like that. Oh.

Mig 37:10

I've heard Stomp. I think it was called Stompers. I gotta look it up. You know, um they started, they opened up uh I think that I think at the end of this month they're gonna open up Azusa Canyon to the four-by-in guys. Four buying people now. It's been closed? Yeah. For how long? Uh I don't know. I saw a video on YouTube that the guys they had a group of guys, like I guess like the big timers at 4 back. They were a lot of them were driving their stuff there, they're towing their trucks there. And I guess they were going around um like fixing the road or or the the routes uh and going through rivers and then seeing how the terrain is and they were getting everything ready to open it up, open it back up. I don't know, I don't know how long but because the times that I've gone over there, like to East Fork Road, yeah. I like I I don't I don't remember seeing like a lot of even just driving up there, I don't remember seeing a lot of trucks going up there like back in the day. Or you see you would see a bunch of dudes in their four bytes driving up there to go up in there. Yeah. And then even the the the cliff that you were able to pull off and then see the trucks you know drive up the mountain. Like I hadn't seen that in a while. Yeah, that and then uh they had that huge mud, that mud pit where everybody would go through, try to run through in the mud. Yeah. So I don't I mean, I don't know. I I didn't know that it was closed. I thought it was open, but but then I did then I realized because I didn't realize that I didn't see a lot of guys going up there in their trucks, and I didn't see them climbing that that big hill or that mountain, whatever they climbed. Yeah, I can't remember when the last time we were up there. Yeah, so they had a lot of like it was pretty crazy because a lot of people were up there, uh the stuff that they brought, like uh newer trucks and these old these old dam four bytes, like nothing, man. Like when they're going to the river. Yeah, a lot of the newer trucks were just getting stuck on the dam. Yep. You know, the very entrance in in the the very beginning. Yeah, well, I don't know if it was the entrance, but uh crossing the river, yeah. They couldn't get in these other old trucks just like because who knows if they had their had like their their their their locks, yeah, and they're able to grip. Maybe they just have their regular four by where it's just the front. They go down there not knowing they're down their tires so they get no grip. But yeah, that's pretty pretty.

Lano 39:26

Did you guys see that video I said about the night rider?

Speaker 4 39:28

Yeah.

Lano 39:29

Did you see how how like crystal clear the video looked though? The footage it looked really nice, like very like clean. Like, but if you watch that show, it looks all like blurry like on TV. Those stompers, I don't remember the stompers. You don't remember, I remember I used to see them play.

Mig 39:42

Where they where were they? They're not wearing hot, they're not a hot wheel, right?

Lano 39:47

No, it was just the brand, yeah. It was the brand stompers, but they're just like little four by four trucks. I remember they had I thought the like the um the back to the future one. The back to the future one was kind of similar.

Mig 39:58

Maybe they have them at Frankincense. You know, I still haven't been to that new Frankensense at their new location since they opened up that big warehouse right there off the 60.

Lano 40:07

Yeah, no, I haven't been there either. My biggest.

Mig 40:09

I have not gone there since that I think I went there once. Yeah, I haven't even gone there. But I tell you, I tried going back again there, and it's it's ridiculous, dude, how full that place gets. Yeah, you can't even find parking. As big as the lot is, yeah. Oh, forget it. No matter what type of thing. It's open every day now, no? No. Oh no. Still just, I think Wesley's and the weekends. I think Saturday and Sunday, right? Probably. Yeah, I know Albert and But yeah, that those are those. I wonder how small those are.

Rick 40:40

Yeah.

Mig 40:41

Oh, is that a little van right there? Yeah, man. I wish my dad's van was four by. They look like little regular out size.

Lano 40:48

I remember they're small, and then I remember like McDonald's had a promotion with them for a while.

Mig 40:53

I wish my dad had his van 4x, man.

Lano 40:57

To me, that's cool. Like I've seen um some trucks like that that I think gas monkey.

Mig 41:01

I wanted uh like looking at my little truck, I mean it's not but the little Toyota. Uh huh. I just want to do a little lift and just little tires, little do little pulsing holes as uh dude.

Lano 41:14

People do that, like they'll grab their hot wheels and make these little scenes outside and take pictures and then like people like go crazy over on Instagram or whatever. With their uh with their hot wheels? Hot wheels or little cars, yeah. They'll make these little scenes outside and then take pictures and oh weird ass tires. And people fall, yeah. Damn, I don't remember those, dude. You don't remember those are cool. I remember like I had like a little black truck. That's what I'm saying. What year are those from? It says from um 80 to where I thought I saw it somewhere here. See, those are like 84. Wow.

Mig 41:52

I guess I just caught up with damn Hot Wheels.

Lano 42:00

They had different generations. What was it last year? Oh look at it, I guess 2001. Yeah, still like 25 years ago. Stompers. Crazy.

Mig 42:13

Yeah, I don't remember those, man. I don't remember them either. I think yeah, because it was always it was always Hot Wheels and Matchbox. I guess they were the the top ones back then.

Rick 42:23

Yeah.

Mig 42:24

But then like I never really got into Hot Wheels. I mean, that was all G.I. Joe. Yeah. It was all G.I. Joe for me.

Lano 42:32

I mean, I had some wheels, like the people bought like some sets, but like I was never like I gotta get this car or find this car.

Mig 42:38

I keep looking at myself in the camera and I keep thinking it's Jamar Y. Jamaro Y, is that his name? Who's it? Remember Jamar Y? Oh Jamar Jamar Kwai or something. Jamar Kwai? Put it up there. You'll see Lano. Oh, I don't even know how you spell it. Put a virtual reality song. Or sing a virtual reality. Yeah. You remember that, dude? We made the video on that walkway in the old dancing and shit. Play it a little bit. Oh, virtual insanity. Oh, virtual insanity. You can play a little bit, right? Without getting copyrighted? Commercial first. Yeah, not having our thing. I think so. Back when MTV actually played music. Yeah. Right. That's me. Oh yeah. Hey, next week I want you to put the floor in like that, right? I want the floor to move like that.

Lano 43:41

We're watching um Jamar Quiet's an old music video. Virtual Insanity has a big hat like like Ricky. Right there. Look at that smoothness.

Mig 43:50

That's right.

Lano 43:51

Yeah.

Movie Picks And Quick Reviews

Mig 43:53

Jamar Quiet. Got the music! J-A-M-I-R-O-Q-E R A I. Jamaro Kwai? Jamaricwai.

Lano 44:02

After um that movie review sent help. Um that movie came out on Disney Plus. I haven't watched it yet, but it came on Wednesday after.

Mig 44:10

It's I told you guys.

Lano 44:14

My wife said she's done to watch it, but we gotta wait till the kids go. Oh, you definitely have to wait until the kids go. Yeah, don't let the kids go. I did see the trailer, but yeah, now it's on Disney Plus and Hulu sent help.

Mig 44:23

Yeah, I tell I tell Rick I didn't know it was that chick from uh Wedding Crashers. The the main one, and she also I didn't even realize that. Her and um she also came out on uh game night.

Lano 44:36

Oh, I know her from um what's that other one? She's come out on a lot of people.

Mig 44:43

But those are her biggest roles ever. You know what was a cool one? We saw I think on Prime. Um it's like sci-fi. Um I am mother. I am mother? That sounds cool. I am mother. That was a surprisingly good uh good flick. Um I was trying to try to find something good for for Vanessa. She loves sci-fi at her wheelhouse. And yeah, that I am mother, that one's really good, dude. Yeah, but I saw that send help, dude, and that's it's crazy, dude. It's yeah, I recommend that one. It's pretty freaking nuts. Oh, I recommend I Am Mother. Oh, it's Netflix. I Am Mother, and um I recommend um Balls Up. Oh, um with Mark Wahlberg.

Lano 45:34

Oh yeah, we saw that one. We saw that one.

Mig 45:36

Did you like it?

Lano 45:37

Um it was funny. Oh, they make like a condom that covers your your your your ball. Yeah, yeah. I got so I I dozed off a little bit and I lost the part because like, oh, that's what it was. Because they they messed up a soccer game, right? So everybody in Brazil's like pissed off at the for that. Okay. Yeah, now I remember. Yeah, we saw it. No, it was pretty funny. It was pretty funny.

Mig 46:07

Yeah, it's good. Cause I was telling Miggy that that was they they made that duel, like of the fat guy being like like dumb or like clumsy.

Lano 46:15

Yeah.

Mig 46:16

But they it wasn't your typical dumb fat dude that's tripping over everything or whatever. Like they did it, they did it good with that guy with that with that. I don't know what his name is.

Lano 46:24

Because he's the new um with the new fat guy.

Rodrigo Y Gabriela Live Recap

Mig 46:27

Yeah, but it was like he was more calm. It was done right. Yeah, it was different and it was cool. So check it out. Yeah, that was that was a good if you just want to see a comedy, we recommend recommend that one. It was cool. Oh, um Lano, do you know uh uh Rodrigo and Gabriela? Yeah, the violinist or something, the guitar guitars, uh huh. Me and Vanessa saw them on Saturday night over that Yamaha.

Lano 46:58

Well, you did you guys went down there?

Mig 46:59

Yeah, how was it? Man, those are they have a big arena, a little theater, yeah. I mean, that theater is cool, man. I've never been in there. It's not like huge, huge, but it's a good size. That thing, like, and then it's weird because you go in the casino and you go towards the corner of the casino, like it looks like it's just hidden, like off to the side, like the the entrance to the theater, it's like in the main entrance, right? Like one of the main entrance. Second floor, no, on the second floor, second floor, oh, yeah, yeah. I know I know where it's at. Yeah, by that dumbass's um the restaurant, yeah. So, but it looks like it's just hidden, yeah. And you walk over there and it's just like kind of like off to the side in the corner, and you walk in. You know what's like that because at Pachanga, uh, their theater looks the same way, it's like it's so unassuming, dude. And like they just have like a marquee in front of them, yes, yes, you know, and that that's about it, and then they put their rope for the lines and everything. You go in, and um, and yeah, the damn theater is big. And we had good seats, road D. Oh wow, we were way up there. They're so good, man. They're so badass.

Lano 48:07

They were high, huh? D was high?

Mig 48:10

No, it was it was up there close.

Lano 48:12

Oh, you said way up there, said that. Uh-huh. Oh, well, up there in the front.

Mig 48:16

Yeah, yeah. Um, but um, yeah, man, they're so damn good, man. It would they were so badass, man. Is it theater the same size like what we saw in um in Vegas? So we want to go see um I think that was Rob? Maybe a little bit smaller. A little bit smaller? Yeah, okay. Because we were, I think there was, I didn't notice the balcony there. Yeah, I think there's a balcony there. But the whole area, it was maybe. Nah, I think it's smaller. No, it's smaller. Smaller? Yeah, it's smaller. I think that one in Vegas was kind of like a little on the small side. Like it might be a little bit smaller than that one. Okay. But they played, I guess it was their 20-year anniversary of their first album.

Speaker 4 49:02

Yeah.

Mig 49:04

Crazy talent, crazy talented. Because for them to just play guitars and not having to sing or nothing, it's all a channel. Jam out the way they jam out. Oh, they didn't sing nothing. They just no, while they had their music, it's all instrumental. It's all guitar. But I thought some of them they they sang some some songs. No, I don't know, I don't think so. Because then what? What was uh they had a guest with them? Maybe. But all it's all instrumental, man. It's all it's all um guitars. And and man, that Gabriela's so badass, like with the rhythm, like she was rocking out, and it was good. Like, like Vanessa didn't didn't know their music, and I was gonna play the some of their videos of them. She didn't want to, she wanted to go in blind. I'll be surprised, uh huh. And she was already like kind of doubting it. She was doubting it because, like, oh, you know, it's all it's all instrumental and just guitars, but I don't think she realized how good they were, how you know, yeah, how talented they are, yeah, because with the sounds and the rhythm, like everything they get out of one instrument, yeah. Cause I told you, like, if it would have just been like regular playing, yeah, like it would I think that's what she thought it was gonna be. But just the rhythm and the different sounds that Gabriela does on the on the guitar and just everything they do. It's like he had a um even on the acoustic guitar, he had a pedal that sounded so good on that damn acoustic guitar. Wow, he was using a pedal with the with the acoustic guitar, yeah. The wallpaper. Oh man, it sounded so good, man. He went, they they they played a little bit of of stairway, and then they let it into Orion. Oh it was so good, it was so good. Damn, yeah, it they're so badass. Oh, dude, I regret not getting tickets then.

Lano 51:00

Yeah, it popped up on YouTube the the stairway to heaven.

Mig 51:03

I had a I had a chance of uh buying some pre-sale tickets when that thing came up. Well, I told you I ran into Eric and and he saw them there and he wanted to go. He he said they almost bought tickets to go there. I told him, dude, you should have, man. That was a a great show.

Lano 51:18

Now, um, I always see the is the Yamava a little cheaper, is the same price, concert tickets, everything? Like around 50 bucks, 50 bucks? I mean, that's a good price for me. Especially you said you sat on it.

Mig 51:29

I think it depends on the artist because I've yeah, I've logged on there sometimes and I've seen them up there like 200 bucks and shit, depending on the artists. Yeah, it depends on the artists, you know.

Lano 51:38

So, what day did you go? Was it like a weekend or you went like on a Tuesday or something?

Celebrity Mobility And Health Speculation

Mig 51:42

Uh it was Saturday. Oh, Saturday. No, yeah, it's a prime day. But they it was uh her mom that got the tickets comped. They gave her free tickets. Oh well, they have um because sometimes, you know, on the 10, I'll I'll see some shows. I was like, uh, Boys to Men's gonna be there. Take Nora, dude. Boys to Men's gonna be playing there. Yeah, there's um there's no one where I carries her. Dude, that that brat can barely walk. I know. I seen her on the news. Yeah, because they did something on Mother's Day because she was here with her kids or whatever, and like I guess she went to go eat at a restaurant or something. Uh-huh. And like she's getting out of the car. She can barely move, dude. I don't know what happened. How old is she? I mean, how old is uh Mariah Carey? I don't think she's 60 yet, or she might like barely be 60. What happened to 57? Why is why is she so messed up? 57. Because I know when when I saw her in Vegas, uh huh, she did like zero dancing. And she was just like standing there. Put put Mariah Carey's health. Let's see. What's wrong with her? Get to the bottom of this. But it's like it just seems like suffering.

Lano 53:01

It just seems like a bipolar disorder? Concerned of physical mobility. What? Stiff movements during performances.

Mig 53:11

Yeah. It's like she just seems like she's so stiff, dude. Like she has like um but what's causing that? Like some kind of arthritis or something?

Lano 53:20

She has bipolar, she's bipolar, and just says that fans noticed that like her mobilities they had concerns. Stiff movement, limited uh mobility during performance.

Mig 53:34

So she they haven't said anything about it at all. Fibro myelagia. Yeah. Maybe maybe like uh what's his name? So that's what I'm saying. It's it's like some kind of some kind of our arthritic. He's a guitarist from uh Monikrew. Is it Mickey Mars? I don't know. I guess I don't know. I like his I think he had like an issue, like something with his bones. See if it's Mickey Mars? Well, you're you're on my carry, I'll check it real quick. Yeah, I think it's Mickey Mars. Mickey Mars? Yeah, I think that was the original guitars for uh Motley crew. Yeah, yeah, but I I had thought it was just because she was she was at that at the show, she was stiff. Uh huh. But I'm telling you, dude, seeing her get out of that car, I'm like, dude, she's still like she can barely move. You see a lot of that with the damn um you know, and like she's like kind of like in her arm and someone else's arm, but you could tell she's using them as support. Yeah, so like one of the body.

Lano 54:46

I seen like Steve Harvey, like he'll be all like acting for um family feud. Uh-huh. But once the camera's off, that guy is like could barely move on the camera.

Mig 54:55

He's probably taking shots before the show. Something like that. Like um the wrestler, uh, what's his name? Um he does movies, like comedy movies, too. Like the peacemaker? What's his name? John Cena? No, yeah, John Cena. Oh. You see him? He's like, when he walks, he's like, he walks with his ass out, but like his like his pain, like his back pain. Yeah. Like he's got really bad back pain. Yeah. Like he's like real stiff and he walks all jacked up. Yeah. They're saying he's got he's got issues. And even Shadon is sharp when they talk about like how he's all damn. Yeah. Oh, I mean, that's understandable. They're those two dudes because all the years of abusing their body.

Rick 55:36

I don't know.

Wrestling Then Versus Wrestling Now

Mig 55:39

But yeah, that's that's that's that's weird.

Lano 55:41

Have you guys um it's popped up seen the whole Kogan Netflix documentary? I haven't seen it. No, I haven't seen it. I know it keeps popping up on my feet. I haven't watched it yet.

Mig 55:52

That's old already though, no?

Lano 55:54

Uh it probably is old.

Mig 55:55

They probably just like showing it because he died.

Lano 55:59

I don't know, I I know because he passed away, they've been they've been popping up on my feet a lot.

Mig 56:04

The virtual insanity. Wow. I mean, you know what? Uh you know how the it's crazy because now on YouTube how everything's being told, like stories are being told about WWE and all that stuff, all the past wrestlers. It's like they kind of ruined all the damn reputation from all the wrestlers. Like, well, Hulk Hogan, I was never really a damn big fan of I never was. Yeah, I mean, that was like my like my first my the the first dude that I loved was Jake the Snake, yeah, because and uh Coco B Ware. Yeah, the dudes we grew up watching, you know, were those OG guys. You see, but when we really got into it, like our favorite characters wasn't until like the 90s, I would say. Yeah, you know, was that but no, but back then, so it was like the G.I. Joes. I always like the G.I. Joe's with uh animals. Yeah, yeah. That's why I like Jake the Snake and Coco B. The Junker Dog?

Lano 57:00

Didn't he have a little dog or no?

Mig 57:02

Nah.

Lano 57:03

Or um British Girl Dog. He just wore a collar. What was it? The British Bulldogs.

Mig 57:09

Matilda Red. Their Bulldog, yeah. Um but and then it was like when Taker came out, I was love Taker, but you know, all-time favorite was Bret Hart. Yeah, he's so badass. Bret Hart.

Lano 57:24

Then Jake the Snake, the snake, remember he bit Virgil and then he had like like a white eye or something? Oh yeah, yeah. It was sick.

Mig 57:30

Those those are those are badass, but watching the like true stories, like real stories of them, like Jake the Snake. He didn't like snakes, dude. He hated them. Yeah, it's like he was terrified of them.

Lano 57:43

There was a series you watching.

Mig 57:44

Somehow, somehow he was able to overcome it, and yeah, you know, and I think it's a trip hearing them talk about the wrestlers, like say like they talk crap about the warrior, where you didn't notice it before, where they said, like, yeah, warrior, like wrestlers that really were technical and and about yeah, the showmanship and all that, and how they would talk crap about warrior, like he that he sucked, he didn't know how to wrestle. And like you start thinking, it's like, yeah, he goes, he's always like all hyper and he's running all you know, all crazy, running down the aisles, and then by the time he gets to the ring, he's all tired out and he can't do nothing. It's like, yeah, it's pretty much yeah, and then all he does is like does like those those hits, and then like he gets all pumped up, and yeah, it's like real basic moves. And you kind of knew that with Hulk Hogan, is like the lake drop, I'm sure a lot of people were pissed with Hulk Hogan because what did he have? Just the that leg drop, and then like he gets all pumped, and it was always the same thing. It's like it was nothing like damn Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels that they had on Arsenal moves where they were entertaining, and it's like you look back, it's like, oh yeah, man, like Warrior, like he didn't like all shit. Yeah, all those old school guys. I mean, yeah, with the exception of maybe who was technical back then, where uh in the 80s, like before Bret Hart, yeah.

Lano 59:11

Well, probably like the kind of like the hammering chicken when he did the cowboy.

Mig 59:16

Yeah, the hammer. Um I mean, well at oh that that was the era though with the with when Shawn Michaels was with the Rockers and even I think Legion of Doom and But the 80s, it just seems like the 80s, they were all just like well, it was all like they were all bruisers and no, but like oh you know who uh like Ricky Steamboat, yeah. Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, Jimmy Snooker, Tito Santana, yes, Tito Santana, all those, and yeah, yeah, all them dudes were were good technical wrestlers, but like everybody else were just like Rick Martin Bruisers and Mr. Perfect, yeah, yeah. Because like really, like Andre the Giant, what the hell could Andre the Giant do, dude? Yeah, it was like poor guy, you know, his body was already breaking down so much at that point, yeah there wasn't much he could do.

Lano 1:00:11

And um The Rock and John Cena, like like did they haven't like were they technical? No, they were, yeah. They were just big celebrities. They were technical, you think, yeah. Yeah, Rock was really he was really good.

Mig 1:00:25

I've watched a lot of those um videos where they're where it like those legends videos and everything, uh-huh, where they talk about a wrestler, and right they always talk about the people they didn't like wrestling with and who they absolutely loved wrestling with.

Lano 1:00:45

Well, because the guys that weren't experienced, those are the guys you get hurt with, right?

Mig 1:00:48

Exactly, yeah, exactly. Or reckless, yeah. You know. That's why everybody that's why some the matches, the matches that have gone on, like the those incredible, memorable, one-of-a-kind matches that lasted like more than half an hour, yeah. It's like it's only with the most technical ones, dude. True. You know, because they they can do it and not hurt each other. I think everyone, the the the biggest wrestler that everyone loved wrestling with was Bret Hart. Because he was he wanted perfection every yeah move that was done out there. And they knew they were safe with whatever they did with Bret Hart. I think that that's you see a video that all of them say where even if they had issues with them outside of the ring of Eagles and all that, but as far as wrestling and putting on the show out there, they showed I wish I had a better memory, but I remember them saying one wrestler like hurt himself really bad because whoever he was wrestling didn't do the move right and really like hurt him bad, like messed up his neck. That's what happened with Bret Hart. I forgot who it was. Was it Bret Hart? It was probably Bret Hart. When he wrestled Goldberg, it was a kick that he didn't do it right, and he I think he kicked him hard and his neck neck flipped back. Yeah, and it it messed up Bret Hart's neck. It's basically put him he retired after that. And then what his next one's funny. What's funny is like watching all that behind the scenes stuff, it's like when um you go back and you remember watching the matches as kids, yeah. When both dudes were knocked out or they were like right there next to each other. It's like you never paid attention to it, but you go back and you watch the footage again, and then you see them talking to each other, like getting like more like the next part of the script or whatever, it's like hey, you know, it's like this do this, this, this, this, and blah blah blah blah blah, you know. So it's pretty crazy. It was cool the when they would blade. Right. Yeah. And I don't know, it's it's like I try to watch today and storyline suck. I mean, but not only that, it's just these dudes. It's like they got no You got you got this You got this one idiot that's um I think it's Rikishi's sons or whatever. The they're he's part of a tag team, whatever. Uh-huh. This one idiot they call Yeet. All he does is say Yeet, and then the the crowd replies like Yeet. It's like the same, it's like they copy, it's like the same thing with Stone Cold said when he's we started saying what? What? What? What? And so he does the same stupid thing, but with Yeet. Yeah. It's like it's like they don't come up with nothing original, man. And then it's like they got this new dude that's supposed to be like, I guess, a new million dollar man, where he comes out and he says, My name is I forget what his name is. Oh he goes in, I write in limousines and jets and everything because I'm better than you and you know it. And you see the whole stupid crowd like repeating it. You know, like really? Nah, he's like all dressed up just like damn cowboy out like macho man, dude. Terrible. It's like stupid, man. That's all that's all stupid Triple H running the show now. Oh, they're stupid. It's like I don't know. That dude, look at Black Machismo. Are you kidding me, dude? Yeah.

Lano 1:04:30

It's stupid, man. Um, Jay Lethal or J Oh, Black Machino. Yeah. Yeah. Stupid. He makes the same faces too, huh?

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Mig 1:04:43

Yeah. Andy Savage presentation gimmick in the face. If he's doing it as a tribute and in honor of him, yeah. I mean, no, it's it's it's obviously he's doing it. He's not he's not copying it trying to it's a tribute to to Macho man. Yeah, you better not come out with some crap saying that you're the real one. Maybe no, no, no, no. No, he's not taking on that uh as his own. I don't know if maybe sometimes he comes out like that. Yeah, maybe that's like an ultra eagle where maybe he he he what do they call that? Uh see, like right there. That one picture it says Jay Leto called the real Macho Man. Or he that's misleading. Yeah. No, that's a stupid type. Maybe it's something where he's gonna Maybe it's an ultra eagle where he where he he gets macho man's like vibe or whatever, you know, when he's gonna wrestle maybe certain matches. And then he comes out as as machismo, whatever that character is. The damn attitude era. Was that the that's the that was the attitude that's the one? Yeah. Um I don't care what they say.

Lano 1:05:57

So we're gonna wrap up the show, but this Saturday is uh Um Gina Carano, Ronda Rouse, you guys um Javi and uh Jason are gonna go. They're gonna be at that fight. It's um where's it at? I know it's on Netflix, but where are they gonna watch it live? Oh, like an Intel? Limo on the Limo app. That'll be live on the Limo app. Did you guys um I mean I never saw these guys fight? Who do you is is one better than the other, or you who do you guys? Gina, I never really saw. Gina never saw. I saw a couple Rhonda fights. What do you think about this?

Mig 1:06:30

I think I saw the one where Ronda lost.

Lano 1:06:33

I saw that one too. And then did Gina live or she just retired when she messed her up.

Mig 1:06:38

Yeah, I don't I don't know about Gina. She effed her up.

Lano 1:06:42

Yeah, well no, it's a Saturday. I'm going for Gina. Something else to watch. Gina's hotter.

Mig 1:06:48

Yeah. I'm going for that brunette. She's a lobo. She loses like Wonder Woman. Ucho and Fuego. Alright, y'all. Good show. That was quick. That was a quick show. Big things happening. Big things require a big hat. Virtual insanity. You could you could be an I'm gonna get you sucker, then you can get into that bar, the big hat club. So I don't know. Let me know. Should I wear it every show? All right, next week I'll wear it backwards. There you go. If we get 100 listeners next week, he'll wear it backwards. Nice. Yeah. Make it happen, people. All right. And keep on drifting, yo.

Lano 1:07:32

Peace.