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Episode 89 - Touchscreens and Knockouts From Smartphone Showdowns to the Boxing Hall of Fame

• Rick, Lano, Miggy • Season 3 • Episode 89

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Ever find yourself in the middle of the great mobile debate, staunchly defending your gadget of choice? This episode is your battleground as RK67, Lano and Mig dissect the rivalries between Apple and Android, scrutinizing everything from iMessage oddities to camera capabilities. We don't hold back on the playful banter, dissecting the quirks and features that set each platform apart in a war of preferences. It's a lively discussion that will have you either nodding in agreement or shaking your fist at the sky, depending on your tech allegiance.

Now, lace up your gloves for a shift into the boxing ring of yesteryear, where the legends of the sweet science spar with the contemporary greats. We pay homage to the remarkable Salvador Sanchez and debate the legacy of Canelo Alvarez, particularly his controversial fight with Floyd Mayweather. The conversation isn't confined to the ring, though; we also swing at the broader sports universe, debating the legacies of athletes like Wayne Gretzky and dissecting the modern sports landscape, from record-breaking basketball moments to cold exposure trends inspired by those fit-freaks on YouTube.

Wrap up with us as we ponder the influence of sports figures over the generations, while considering the motivation behind our own athletic endeavors. Whether it's mulling over the possibility of running a marathon or encouraging the next generation's sports dreams, we delve into the personal aspects of being fans, participants, and parents in the dynamic world of professional sports. Join us for this rollercoaster ride through tech debates, sports nostalgia, and life's musings—you'll come for the laughter and stay for the insights.

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Mig

Welcome back to the Drifting on Arroyo podcast. This is Mig.

Lano

This is Lano and RK67.

Mig

What's up people? What's going on? What's going on.

Lano

We should have saved our pre-show meeting right now.

Mig

Man, we had a. We were pre-gameing right now and got pretty heated in here. Yeah, as it will, with our audience. The whole Apple versus Android discussion and our producer is outnumbered here two to one. So iPhone is ridiculous, but yeah, it's crap, it's garbage.

Lano

Ridiculous.

Mig

You can pay me enough money to own an iPhone and use it your iPad is Wi-Fi only or has the chip, the SIM card, my what iPad?

Lano

Yeah, only Wi-Fi.

RK67

Because now and that's signing with your same Apple ID, right? Yep, I did it all because it's all with the business. Yeah, so it's all. Now. Your phone calls, everything are going to be all like connected and your texts and from your, from your work phone and your work iPad iPhone's all easy and all this.

Lano

Now, apparently, if I give you my number, I got to give you my email too. That way, if you want to send me lasers or confetti or balloons or kisses or anything, you got to put down my my wait for it another step. It's another step that iPhone users got to do. They always hate. Like, you want to send me a photo on my Android, you got to go into a WhatsApp or whatever, or, god forbid, you got to go into a nap and send me something, but now you got to. If you want to send me lasers and balloons, you got to put my email in in my contact, in your contacts.

RK67

Well, I think it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1

Not only that and now it's sort of whatever, whatever you want to call it, whatever you want to call it.

RK67

Because, I don't think you have your phone number attached to it.

Lano

But what's the bullshit that you got to go into another keyboard screen to damn hit a punctuation or a number.

RK67

Well, that's I mean.

Lano

I mean I don't know about that, because that's like I've grown doing that, yeah, like then you had to figure out like, yeah, your your punctuation, you got to go into another keyboard menu.

RK67

So yours is like just uppercase. On Android it's uppercase and you just or how does? How do you do a punctuation, exclamation or?

Lano

or so. You hit the number one, two, three, and then it goes into the screen where it has the numbers, and then it has the periods, the exclamation points, the commas and semicolons.

RK67

No, no, no, no, but on the Android you have everything on one screen.

Lano

Oh, so the key you have the late the keyboard has the letters. On the top of the letters you have the, the punctuation, and then on top you have the numbers.

RK67

Also, you like hold down a letter and then it pops up, or how does it? How do you get to the second and third stage? Yep.

Lano

Yep All on one screen, nice and convenient.

Mig

Well, so iPhone equals mierda.

RK67

Now for for you guys. I mean I've never, since I've grown up, using, you know, like clicking on on, you know, the, the second stages of keyboard or whatever. On iPhone you could download different keyboards, so you could download probably the one that you like. So that's another step.

Lano

I gotta do. That's what I'm saying Like I mean I don't do it, but is that another? Is that another step, like like you would have to download?

RK67

a different keyboard, because I know UI phone users hate doing another step.

Lano

You would have to download a different company, a different company. You guys gotta go into another step, Like it's the simplest shit you guys complain about. So I'm just following your guys' lead.

RK67

But all the green bubbles, the green bubbles.

Lano

Well, don't worry, man, iPhone's getting rid of that Pretty soon. You're not going to be seeing my green bubbles from my Android.

Mig

They're gonna make it all across. It's such a stupid complaint you should see how many people complain about that shit, that is such a stupid complaint.

Speaker 1

And then you know what?

Lano

I just enjoy it, because if it bothers you, then you know I might take you one word at a time then to get my sentence through.

RK67

But I read it. It's not the Android users complaining that their bubbles are green.

Lano

You guys complain about the green bubbles and you guys complain about and then this crap. I don't know if you know this, meg. If you're in a group chat it like just having an Android in an iPhone group chat messes up the whole message board. All the pictures are messed up, they come out gritty, and all that just because the iPhone's in the group text. That's how stupid iPhone has their thing set up Too bad.

Mig

No issues on the Android end.

Lano

They're like oh, you should get an iPhone so you can get my pictures and my video or whatever. Every iPhone guy that sends me a video is like it's all gritty, whatever I see kind of what's going on.

RK67

It's funny. Well, I think on your phone your phone number wasn't attached to your ID, but now that I added your ID to my phone book, it knows where it's at.

Mig

I mean the problem with those iPhones, about the gritty video and everything is because iPhone cameras suck no no, no, they're not as good as that.

Speaker 1

They're not as good as the.

Lano

Android. But no, I just to come out clear, like, okay, so it looks like, it looks like those videos that are capturing big foot.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's what it looks like.

RK67

Okay, but through Are you saying through text messages or through text messages?

Lano

And then if, like, what was the complaint that Mark was saying, Like in a group text you can't remove someone because the Android person's on there, or like it's like you had to start like a whole new group chat because the Android phone or Android user's messing it up or I don't know. I mean there's a lot of shit that annoys me and for this this is pretty petty, yeah.

RK67

Now, when did you get your work phone? Like what day are you?

Lano

It was like two days ago. All right, so you're getting used to it.

RK67

Once you get through the groin pains, you're going to love it. Once you have it set up properly and everything and everything's all seen.

Mig

You figured it out For a phone and a product that touts being user friendly. It's not very user friendly. It's not as much as an Android man.

Lano

It's crap.

Mig

Android is turnkey, ready to rip.

Lano

The one thing is that the iPad. The iPad is good because it works fast when every other, like Samsung, tablet or whatever, it's a delay. So with that, okay, okay, and it's for the business, so I'm going to need that.

RK67

But how's the?

Mig

well, no that, and back in the day the iPod. I'll give them that oh yeah, we are.

Lano

Yeah, the iPod, the Nano.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Lano

We rock with those Now, do you?

RK67

save files on the iPad Like, I don't know, PDF or whatever you look your job map, because now you'll be able to see it on your phone.

Lano

Like they'll be synchronized and yeah, I mean that's the only reason, because I mean, james has iPhone stuff, marcos has iPhone stuff, everyone we deal with has iPhone. You know, I Apple, you're going to need the watch.

RK67

Next get the watch and then maybe a laptop.

Lano

No, Mark Mark got me this kick ass Garmin watch. That's all I need. That's all I need my running watch.

RK67

Then a laptop.

Lano

I get my text messages here I get my phone. Check it out today. Okay, my phone and my phone.

Lano

My phone gave me the weather and then told me the sunrise, the sundown. I didn't respond to the thing. I hit my steps already, my heart rates at 72. My body batteries at 16 right now. So I need to go get some rest. I slept. I slept six hours, 45 minutes notifications, my texts, my emails, and then it tells me good morning. And then it will tell me like a little message, little inspired message You're ready to take on the day.

RK67

You can only receive texts or you can respond to them.

Lano

No, I can only receive them. I can see what I got, but that's.

RK67

I mean that's a big help because I mean just knowing like if it's important or not important like a text, like looking at something.

Lano

Yeah, because I see it right here I can read the text. I mean like, if I then I forgot to reply to it, then you get my phone. And I'm fine with doing that extra step. It doesn't bother me. I'm just complaining about the keyboard, because you guys complain about everything, so I might as well like complain about it, you know now, Miki, you have a newer car, right?

RK67

Does your car have carplay or Android for the car or whatever Apple carplay or Android?

Mig

No, it'll be like we're next to the radio and all that stuff, or no, my Bluetooth.

RK67

Well, there's some like where the screen changes, like the maps and all that stuff.

Lano

Well being a. You know, I don't know I would display like that oh yeah, it's like the new motorcycles, they'll have like a. Well, you can download whatever you use, right? Yeah, you should be Android mobile or Apple carplay yeah, depending what you use, and you can use it with them.

RK67

I've never had it, and the car we have now doesn't support that either.

Lano

But you know. You know one thing with the the they complain about the iPhones being on like Harley's whole months. The rumble of the Hardy Harley. Yeah that kind of messes up the iPhone. I don't know. I don't know if it's still true, but what? Do you mean, I was seeing a lot of people say that, like just to shaking it, the shake of it, because Harley's have a good rumble to it.

RK67

Like but how is it like ruining the phone, or what was it doing?

RK67

I guess just the vibration messes up the phone I recently saw a YouTube video where like those is like rumor or whatever, and the guy tested it out, it was like Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation, that the baseline was like showing off like laptops like and if you had a hard drive, like somehow that the baseline match the same frequency of the hard drive, where the computer would just like crap out. Oh, they're like they would bring laptops like they'll play that song and bring laptops like next to it.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

RK67

And then like it just like shut off, like like, and they'll be like like bricked because, like the hard drive will just like break, like it matches the frequency that the thing is like the hard drive is like recording. So they tested it and they had like a whole room like a bunch of laptops and they're playing like on speakers really love, and then all the laptop screens just go off.

Lano

Is that every laptop? Any kind of brand-line laptop?

RK67

Anything that has to you know now, like new hard drives are like SSD, which is solid state. It's the old hard drives, old hard drives where, like record data, like a record, so the old, not so like the old ones of it's not like an SSD drive. Ssd is like some kind of like memory sticks that the youth so, like the older laptops, so just be careful when you're playing um rhythm nation. I was tempted to try to play it, but then I got it on the mess with my computer.

RK67

I did, but then I was like well, my computer is solid state, so like it wouldn't be a problem. But just, it was a YouTube video. I saw it. It was kind of crazy.

Lano

He wants to be one of those, he wants to be part of the dam. What do they call them? The bussers guys, the, the guys that test out shit. Oh, the myth, myth bussers.

RK67

So I want to get on you, because I put up the um, I put up the, the Christmas sweater. You didn't even buy it.

Lano

I told you I had it, I kept trying to buy it and then when did you put it up?

RK67

Last show. I put it up. Oh did you? I didn't know, I didn't know you're going to do it. I had told you I was like I'm putting it up.

Lano

But you say a lot of stuff that you say and then you don't do it. Well, I did it.

RK67

That night so you could buy it. So it's out Well, yeah, I mean I'm going to put it away now because it's like already a week after Christmas. But that was a limited drop, merch drop Right now. Right now Merch drop no way. So I wanted to get this out early, because now that it's getting cold, can you put a?

Lano

can you put one? One more night with a sweater, I'll leave it.

Winter Sport Hoodies and Casino Stories

RK67

Okay, one more night, because when I release this the new, I'm calling this the winter hoodie. But when can I buy it? You can buy it right now, until tomorrow, until Thursday. Then I'm taking away. But these are the new, I'm calling these the winter hoodies. So four new designs that was pretty cool.

Mig

These are the hoodies.

RK67

This is the baseball edition Because it's the local, local baseball teams.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

RK67

I got the the soccer edition.

Lano

Good deal, dude.

RK67

So this is the soccer edition. Oh, how yeah Very nice, black and gold, black and gold. And then we got the football edition. So these are the winter sports hoodies I call it black the Royal Sports hoodie. So the football edition. And it's only hoodies, only no shirt, just hoodies.

Lano

Only hoodies.

RK67

Okay, cool, and then. So these are. These are going to be out Thursday. You know something the first 48 hours are always so.

Lano

I'll say that the last ones are UCLA, yeah.

RK67

I just put it just for the fans out there. So four new, I guess four new colorway of sweat hoodies to get just in time for winter. And then I got some other ideas.

Lano

I'll come here and do like a liquor color for the basketball fans.

RK67

Because the hoodies. They didn't have a purple or yellow hoodie.

Lano

That was good.

RK67

Well, they only had like black, blue, red oh okay. So I mean I was doing something quick with my limited time. So these were the colors.

Lano

All right, so I guess I'll get my maybe I'll have a Laker one ready.

RK67

I got a. Maybe I can do the like purple and gold or something like that.

Lano

Why don't you do like old school and just the blue one with the white? Take it back to the where they came from.

RK67

Well, I mean, then you could get the. The baseball one will be the same oh yeah, you're right. So, these these designs will be out Thursday and it's the first 48 hours. They're on special, so I'm gonna wait, really so, and then to see this is still out there. All right, so I'm gonna get that one get it, cuz I'm gonna don't wait till Thursday, cuz I'm gonna take it down.

Lano

Okay.

RK67

Get it or so emerged up just in time for summer. And then I have some other stuff in the pipeline that I'm working on. Me you actually caught me working on these last last week when you walked in and I had a hide it did why walk? You walked in, I was working, I had like turned the computer off at the screen. I'll be dead in, but we still got our degenerate bear shirts. Meaghan's got another story for that too. We got the jackpot shirt. Anybody go into casinos?

Mig

Go look see those people, they're giving money away.

Lano

I sure you know what. I think mark was tired of hearing your casino stories.

Mig

How many have I told?

Lano

I mean, there's one story dedicated to it and Then, um, maybe a couple times. Yeah, we just mentioned it. We just mentioned your quick hits.

RK67

Yeah, so um another quick hit. How much did you win this past weekend?

Mig

A little bit, since mark doesn't want to hear about it. Yeah, he doesn't have to.

RK67

What was that it?

Mig

was a nice little chunk of change the gross.

RK67

And then what'd you? Walk home with a. A little bit less and what's what's going on you? Have you talked to mark. When's the last thing you saw mark?

Lano

Um Christmas because he hasn't he hasn't been on the line, so yeah, I don't even know if he's well, he was, uh, he was out of town. You weren't on vacation to Mexico City, no, I don't know, how long he was over there, though. He was over there for over the weekend. Um, I talked to him. I've talked to him, but I haven't seen him since um, since christmas.

RK67

But um, he and then by then too.

Lano

Who knows? You know we didn't do those two shows before the year end.

Mig

Yeah.

Lano

We've done two Since, since it too great I think this is their second, one or third one. I think there's a third one, yeah.

RK67

Uh-huh Three on this year so who knows, maybe um but um calling. I thought what we're gonna get, um comments on the blue beetle. We had a big week in terms of listeners last week, but but the hotline is 323 207 0012 but calling. And then I'm still curious about mark, if you saw that batman or not. Yeah, he never he hasn't replied, and he's supposed to be the the batman guru.

Lano

I mean, I want to hear feedback from that blue beetle from people and see who who liked it, or no, why they liked it.

RK67

And I thought your, your nephews and stuff, we're gonna call in about that because they're, they're big um comic people. Yeah, what the blue be what. But you know we had a spike in listeners last week, so I think people are, like you said, are getting over catching up, the holidays starting, catch up and they probably saw that two mid shows are like all right, these guys probably yeah because, I barely finished like listening to last week show, last night or yesterday. Like we didn't even have time to get it to watch it.

Mig

Oh, really quick. Since we're on the topic of a blue beetle and dc comic movies and everything, another one. I want to bring up that I was just watching over the weekend. That was really good both, both of them. Um, it's called red, red and red too with Bruce Willis red. How, that's an old movie they're. They're older, yeah, but those are really good. I think they're like graphic novels from dc, like a spy kind of a cia, you know, like with some comedy thrown in there.

RK67

Red. I guess the first one was 2010.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Mig

Yeah, those were really well done. So the DC comic movies, I recommend that one. There are those two actually you guys haven't seen them.

RK67

Hmm, and when you say dc, it's the dc, but it's it's, I don't know. It's connected with those like that universe, right, just like standalone.

Mig

No, I don't mean, they're just dc, uh, comics, comics Okay.

RK67

Where'd you watch it at? With um streaming service.

Mig

I think I just watched it on uh on a rotation on cable Okay.

RK67

I have to look for it.

Lano

I did see um I don't know if you saw it. I started watching one pair but I fell asleep.

RK67

It's. It's a long, but well, how far did you get, hmm?

Lano

No, I didn't even get that far.

RK67

All right, so you're still early. Yeah, no, no keys. Huh, no keys, okay you know they were.

Lano

Hey, it was like burly setting up the story where I think the very first five minutes he talked about his friend that he never met before and H. Yeah, h with an, a right like spelled with it, it's like he was like yeah, he was out fighting, dude, they're collecting coins and yeah.

RK67

That's kind of crazy. Huh, like, like, because these coins are like their lives, like, so they get, they start all over, like if they lose them. So like people risk them and some people don't risk them. Right, that's what's funny about the beginning.

Mig

You know it's like people get so um, so into it, so involved. Is this like when they show the that, the building of the?

Speaker 1

no, that that one in the beginning.

Mig

They show that building photo the Asian. Other the Asian businessman and the dude loses and he gets all pissed off. He starts bringing out the desk and he's about to jump out the window and they catch him. It saves them, no, they catch them it saves them, stop them. Did you get to that part?

Lano

No, I didn't get that. You're in the first five minutes, yeah.

Mig

I know, dude, you fell asleep right away.

RK67

You're in the first five minutes, but uh, I guess I wasn't sure if you're ready to talk about it. I don't know if you saw, but I did see that. Um, um, no, left behind, was that when you told me?

Lano

oh, yeah, yeah Um the world left. Yeah, yeah, did you, guys you see me. I didn't, you didn't see it. You saw a lot of yeah. Do you know what I was talking about?

RK67

Uh, was it about credits at the beginning?

Lano

No.

RK67

Because I know it was like executive producer was Obama. No no, is it the? Um? I didn't even know that, friends.

Lano

No, what did you?

RK67

well, he means gonna, I know what was it that you said Something he had a pit peeve or something he didn't like about it?

Speaker 1

Oh.

RK67

And I don't want to, I don't want to. Was it like friends. No, let's say come no okay. Then I don't know what it is then.

Lano

Let's see how I can say I watch it this week.

RK67

All right, oh wait. Well, I guess we'll wait. Then We'll wait Um.

Lano

You know, um, okay, all right, maybe I can say it.

RK67

Well, bothered me was the music. Is that what you had to say? No, okay, because it was trying to create like situations that were like not there. You know, like if I'm just watching it, mute it, which I wasn't like it'd be just like whatever. But the music was trying to make like suspense that I don't know, suspense to me, but I guess we'll let miggy. Yeah, I guess maybe I'll talk a little bit off air about but yeah, watch it. Um, I want to say it's about it like I guess you didn't catch.

Lano

You didn't catch what I Would I.

RK67

I don't think so.

Lano

Disliked about the movie.

RK67

I mean, there's some stuff in my head but I just don't want to talk about it because me hasn't seen yeah, yeah. So we'll wait. But, um, leave the world behind. I saw it. Um, ricks are. We're just waiting for miggy to see it. So everybody catch up and, and let's see, we'll have to call in if you think you know ricks talking about, and we'll play the phone calls before we review it yeah but um, I thought it was that movie was recommended by mark.

RK67

I thought it was okay, I've seen um better, yeah, and there's another one that I want to see. That that um, it popped up in my feed.

Lano

What is it called? But?

RK67

it looks similar awake. Awake, awake because it had like the same, like, kind of like, oh no, like story because I saw another movie.

Lano

We saw another movie too this past weekend, and that was same thing where there something happened to the, to the, to the planet. Some radiation got let out, but there was this one farm that was, I guess, kind of low in the valley where the radiation didn't get to, and and this one girl that was there by herself, her, her, her, I think, her dad and her one of her brothers left to go find survivors, and it was just a whole other thing where this chick's living by herself, Well, awake was netflix 2021.

RK67

Um, it has um that girl from um, gina Rodriguez, but it says um after a devastating global event wiped out all the electronics and limited people's ability to sleep. They're just speaking to a former soldier may have found a solution with their daughter.

Speaker 1

So this is kind of like the same was the other.

Mig

That's why I saw.

RK67

I saw that and this popped up.

Mig

That's the main thing right now is apocalyptic freaking movies man, where you're getting back to basics and you're getting back to survival skills.

Lano

Hold them this, hold them All these damn movies and everything Hollywood, whatever They've gotten. So freaking lazy man, yeah, so damn lazy like.

Mig

That's why a lot of times I don't even bother with new movies, I just watch all my favorite old ones. It's like never get tired of them Indiana Jones, I guess.

Lano

I guess it's good, because you don't want to like that all this stuff's coming out on streaming on streaming services. I mean, I'd be pissed if I go see these movies and I go to a movie theater. Get up, get my ass up to go over to move theater, go watch crap like this.

RK67

I'll drop like 50 bucks or whatever, and I guess well, now, like the movie theater it's supposed to be, like there's supposed to be crap coming out because of that strike. You know, there's like a strike for like.

Lano

I think it was a year or six months or something. But like it.

RK67

Writers the writer strikes, so delayed everything. So they said we're not gonna see anything good for like a couple years or a year from now, from from everywhere, they said whatever.

Lano

Yeah, I mean the scripts. There's a bunch of scripts out there like what is that? Well, I mean, yeah, there's the scripts, but they can't.

RK67

They can't use them until, like that, strike was done.

Lano

Now that it's it's ready, that should be right. You know shouldn't miss a beat, it should just get going on it. But when?

Discussion on Mexican Boxer Salvador Sanchez

RK67

when did you watch ready player or did you start ready player one? It was on sunday, I think. Okay, so yeah, sunday. There is one gripe that I have. I like the movie, but there's one gripe with it that I do that I told my wife, but, um, it's not a big deal, but just there's one little thing. I have it but like it's a typical Spielberg movie which is to me just a good, like you know kid, like popcorn movie, like Spielberg knows the formula and he's gonna do it like every single time, so it's a good, good movie.

RK67

That doesn't fly with me, you're not a I mean Spielberg to me. I mean I grew up with Spielberg. He's gonna I mean I wish we could go back to the 80s and watch.

Lano

The original movies. Did you guys, did you guys, um, did you guys see that stuff that I sent you? Yeah yeah, you saw it. Yeah so Before even seeing that, I mean I've been watching a lot of them. Highlights of this dude. Yeah um, who did you guys think the best Mexican boxer was? Because growing up I mean when I saw that growing up it was like damn, boxing was like a big part of us growing up too. Yeah, because of those.

RK67

You're so, so chavis. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, chavis.

Lano

The best Mexican fighter, best best, yeah, hands down.

RK67

In our. I mean I say yeah, because because I started watch.

Lano

Yeah, when I see some highlights of Chavez, like yeah, I mean that dude was a mean pit bull.

RK67

I saw it like every fight at the Madoga's house. We watched like it's crazy like who knows?

Lano

Okay, so the reason I'm bringing it up, people, because, um, I came across a clip. Well, my Tyson and Roy Jones Jr and they. It was like a question of who was the mix best Mexican fighter, the next best.

RK67

No, the best who was?

Lano

yeah, who was the the best Mexican fighter? And Roy Jones, actually, I said like all around fighter and these are old interviews.

Mig

Yeah, these are old interviews.

Lano

Roy Jones. Roy Jones said Um, this guy by the name of Salvador Sanchez. He was a boxer like in the late 70s, early 80s, early 80s, and then also too, like my Tyson. My Tyson talked about him too and it was funny because we're Roy Jones. When they asked Roy Jones, they're like well, once he mentioned Salvador Sanchez, they're like who's that? He was like yeah, because you don't know who that is because you're not a interviewer, right?

Lano

Yeah, the interviewer because, like you're not a, you're not. You're not a student of the game, you're not a student of a game like. I am yeah and then and then even Tyson was says even he said him, you know, talked about him like was out of those Sanchez and like Growing up, before I even looked them up I was like dude is like, he was nowhere around the radar.

RK67

So you didn't know who he was.

Lano

No, I didn't know who he was Up inside. I started looking up videos of him and man dude, the way, the way his style of fighting, the way he would do this, this little dip. To set up that that nasty Slippery hook, oh man. And then so he. I mean he passed away young, but man, I go as probably why we never. He was barely going like you know, man, didn't you know them?

Mig

He did, I was. I was gonna ask him, dude, if he knew you know about the, you know the? That they had asked the rate Roy Jones and my tennis was the greatest Mexican boxer. He told me that, yes, other Sanchez, how did you know that? Like he's seen that.

RK67

No one's ever bought him up or anything like I, but he knew him, or did he see that interview?

Mig

I don't, I've never, talked to him about it, yeah.

Lano

The whole time growing up is like it was never on my radar.

RK67

I've never heard of him before.

Lano

I mean, you hear, you hear of the, of the these old, these old, old boxers, of course you know. Did they say who his trainer was?

Speaker 1

Ah, because something like trainers have like been.

Lano

Now the crazy thing is like wherever, where, where, where he grew up, I mean what you guys saw it, but just to let the people know, like where he grew up is his. His conditioning was just out of his world.

Mig

And that's why all these boxers do high altitude training.

Lano

Now Was partly because he, he, him. He grew up a mile and a half above sea level, where he was run like 10 miles Every day.

Mig

Well, he grew up in Mexico City. In Mexico City is a high altitude city so. If you, if you guys, ever go visit there and you try to climb those pyramids, you better be in good shape, because you're gonna get up about a quarter of the way.

Lano

You're gonna be out of breath, yeah and, and it's crazy, and this, and this is when damn boxing was 15 rounds. Yeah, and it was and as they say, that that he was notoriously slow starter.

Mig

Yeah but because he didn't care that he would love going to 15, because by the time you get to like round 10, that, yeah, it's already dying out. It was that I'm switching switching into the next gear.

Lano

The before he fought Will Fredo go yeah that dude on the one la porte yeah or the portal.

Speaker 1

What's like?

Lano

that Do? You saw the way he came on swinging. Yeah, dude, like dude. This dude's not gonna be able to keep up like he was. And it wasn't like a wild man, just swing like the dude.

Mig

And then the thing was kind of, the thing is also accurate, his defense was so good. Yeah, he would slip those punches so much. You look at the fights and you see his opponents faces all beat up.

Lano

Yeah, and him no, nothing Dude, I think that was one of the things to us on the video not a mark.

Mig

You know, I was like, like slip with the punches. Yeah, where he was, it was incredible that ability that he had to, like you know, just like see the punch coming and he's like he'd kind of go with it and yeah, yeah, he had those, those short little counters, you know, and yeah, it went 15, right or no?

Speaker 1

Yeah.

RK67

Like.

Lano

And then the like I guess this was so that guy with Fredo Gomez the poor or Puerto. Rican fighter, he had knocked out already a couple of Mexicans, and so you know the two crowds, you know two people, you know pulling for the fighters like they were just waiting for the next Mexican fighter to manage, and that was Sanchez and man. I even even that even that fight was like it was. It's just nice, man, seeing those old fights seen, seen the, the technique, the whole science, like the science of boxing, like man.

RK67

Now, looking at his record, the guy you recognize there is woman Nelson, I think Travis bottom. Let's look like it was his last fight, yeah.

Speaker 1

I think, I think after.

Lano

So that was a big fight was with with Fredo Gomez, like for a belt. I mean I don't know about but the rivalry they said he fought with three fights. It was three fights after that fight and then that's when he passed away in a car crash.

RK67

And then look, it says he fought on Trinidad senior the dad.

Lano

That's nuts dude, and I mean because he died so young. That's that's part I never you know and it's a 22 23.

RK67

So that's Like pre-prime right.

Lano

Like you say, they came, he started at 16.

Mig

Yeah, he was really young. He turned pro at 16.

Speaker 1

I think so yeah.

RK67

No, but like, let's say 25, 24, like you start like Using your knowledge, or I mean I know he was already gifted and skillful. Yeah but like I think that's like pre-prime, like he was gonna.

Lano

Yeah, you're pre-prime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 22, yeah, 22, 23. It was just like man. I was like I Was so happy, like once I started seeing his highlights and his fights I was like, oh, man, and then just the story of it. Man, the way they did, the way that the channel tells a story, it's this is like nice. Yeah, it was kind of documentaries like it. They have like the documentary of course that would be.

Mig

That would be a good movie for them to make. Yeah, yeah, if they want to do like a good boxing story. That would be a good one to make, yeah right, no one's told it.

Lano

Yeah, that was, that was.

RK67

That is a good, a good idea, you know the day you sent me the text I had just been watching those on Netflix, the George foreman story, those on the it's called big George foreman or whatever that channel, that YouTube channel, yeah, I guess it covers all those little you know.

Lano

I mean, because it has that oil and Trinidad and then that whole rivalry. I'm Chavez and party come on show. Okay, you know it has whatever you know. Like that was like the start of the Mexican and the Puerto Rican rivalry.

RK67

And it was only them to like Miguel Cotto and stuff on like today. Well, I know Miguel's not today, but Towards late boxing. I mean, I know who Miguel Cotto is.

Lano

Yeah, it was just, it was just. It was just cool, a cool, a cool finding. Then just watching the how, how Bad ass his dude was there.

Mig

I gotta watch Marvin's fights, cuz I keep on my YouTube feed. It keeps coming up like. Marvin's fights come up.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and I haven't said I watched a little because they're they're long clips.

Mig

Yeah, you know, I'm.

RK67

Sorry, like when I get home Was 18 minutes.

Lano

But they're so worth it. But you know what I noticed?

RK67

that 18 minute one, the one that showed a lot of his fights was like, once he found that opening, that punch, like he just kept using it. Yeah like over and like the same punch over and over, and then you see the guy's face is game be?

Lano

like Because I know that that dip he would do. He's just like like kind of like it's investigating what they're gonna, the reaction of it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, how is he?

Lano

gonna slip in the damn and do once. He started like going man with his jabs, jabs, hooks, uppercuts. It's like man. Those uppercups were like nasty he's like it's just solid dude man it was. I mean it was a nice find I was. I was glad I came across and it was all from a short clip. It was all from a short clip that I just barely like glance pass and it just said Best Mexican fighter. It had Tyson under my god. I see what he says you're gonna say now that things are or canelo it was like one 22.

RK67

That's why you know.

Lano

Yeah.

RK67

But when he came, out with sorrow.

Lano

Those, I just miss out, those Sanchez was, how's that? And then, and that same clip is so Roy Jones Jr. Yeah, he was all. You don't know who he is because you're not student of the game like I am like, oh man, that's why I started looking him up and yeah, I do it's like. I mean, I think he probably would have been the greatest man probably so he was like, like or yeah, like what is it?

RK67

I'm sugar a liner and stuff like Holmes, like he was too small in that.

Mig

I mean, he probably would have definitely.

Lano

Was on his way up, he probably wouldn't moved up, yeah.

Mig

That would have been a fight cuz one 22.

RK67

I mean, I think I was in one 22.

Lano

Yeah, cuz, even even watching clips of Chavez man, those damn combinations he would come and then work that body in body shots man so beautiful man, so beautiful, so beautiful now I Mean I kind of stop watching box boxing just cuz like I.

RK67

So I used to watch it like at someone's house all the time, like I never bought the pay-per-views. Yeah but like canelo was coming up, I think I saw canelo at your house like when he was barely coming up. Do you guys still watch canelo today?

Lano

No, no, no, last fight, last fight. I did I, I got it. Who do you fight? It was more, I told. I told Vanessa let's go, let's go to her grandparents. Yeah it's just, you know, cuz I had the fire stick, let's just watch the fight over there. Yeah, just to, just to get together, you know.

Mig

I don't. I don't watch that salad anymore, cuz you guys. He pissed me off.

RK67

Oh, he did like what's the?

Lano

He's not taking any tough fights.

Mig

I mean whether or what he lost against me. That's only what fight is lost. Oh, but.

Lano

But I Mean, I don't know, I mean co-caid Deloria Saying that he's dodging a lot of the tough fights, and I think he came out too that he doesn't, he doesn't want to take on tough fights, he just, you know, he's Once to dominate, make his money.

RK67

Well, that's think when I saw him, maybe at your house, like he was an undercard maybe.

Lano

But that was probably when you first, yeah.

RK67

I mean.

Mig

About 10 years ago.

RK67

Yeah, well, what fight was that?

Mig

No, it's probably carnaelo, because I'm thinking that it was kind of before he fought me whether, yeah, way before you found me, you know because no, he was barely coming up.

Lano

Yeah, and I was so many he has so many fights on it already been at a young age.

RK67

Yeah cuz I think the last time I saw your house was Deloria and the kid from oxen. I wasn't him Vargas, vargas and he was like.

Lano

And he was like on the undercard.

RK67

That's what I'm saying, like he was on the undercard.

Lano

Yeah, yeah, well.

RK67

I think he was on the Quarter during that fight. No, he was like that's way before canelo do.

Mig

Canelo was probably them Little kid running around.

RK67

There, cuz I'm ever seen canelo like on undercards. He wasn't the main event yet and I think that's the last fight I seen a yeah, no, we started watching canelo.

Mig

He was maybe like 17 18 years old and he went pro. He was really young.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

RK67

Now that probably already had a lot of that may weather fight and canelo like you saw it, like he looked, like he threw it or what yeah, he held punches.

Mig

He pulled punches. Oh no, he.

Lano

Why? I guess he did. Yeah, I guess he just he just changed his whole fighting style. Dude, the way, the way we saw him fighting coming out is gonna like dude, he's gonna destroy me whether and he changed his whole fighting style. Why he did it. I don't know why, but I mean you know why, but man he got paid. Yeah, he got paid, he got paid good, he got paid good.

Mig

It just made, no sense.

Lano

No sense is like you're. You're fighting this, this, this way, since you came out All of a sudden, you're fighting may weather and you change your style of fighting is like and then, after you, go back to the way you fought before.

RK67

Yeah, of course.

Lano

Yeah, or you go back to the way you did before, but then you don't take To fights see, but that that's a thing to fight.

Mig

It's like he, in my opinion, he sold out to me weather. Let me whether keep his perfect record intact, you know, and and in addition to all the money they they got in that fight, may weather also passes a torch of owning Vegas, because all of his fights afterwards were in Vegas and with all those judges and everything in his pocket.

Mig

Keep it going, I'll be back you know, with all, with all those judges, everything in his pocket, it's just made for, you know, for a canelo to keep. You know, I Guess build his legacy, and I do that in big air quotes. You know, I'm just I don't know, dude, I just. It just really upset me so much that he did that, you know, because this kid could have been the greatest fighter out of Mexico, you know. But I'm tight watching that fight, dude. I seen him where he had openings, where he could have just dropped a hammer on Mayweather, where he had him, and he didn't pull the trigger. And it drove me insane and I didn't want to believe it. But the reason I say that that happened is Is because how is it that, as a new manager, a promoter, de la Joya, the biggest fight of his young promotional career, canela de la Joya, de la Joya, and he disappears the week before? Right, how do you disappear the week before when it's the biggest thing you've ever promoted?

RK67

So, with that when that happened, well, what was the reason that we find out, or no, he just disappeared, like he just disappeared, and went on a bender.

Mig

You know, and so you know probably he didn't want nothing to do with the, with the sellout.

RK67

You know he probably didn't want the he knew about it and then like I think so.

Reflections on Boxing and Canelo

Mig

I think so. And you know, it's like he didn't want no part of it, so he just disappeared. And what's that happened? I was like huh, I'm like how the hell you disappeared. This is like the biggest thing that your promotional company is ever going to do. And he just disappeared, nowhere to be found. I'm like, nah, something's up, something's up, canela.

RK67

Canelo, he's been on top. What did you say? You?

Lano

say 10 years since me with it.

RK67

Oh yeah, I guess, yeah, In your mind. Like is he bigger than Chavez?

Speaker 1

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, dear, dear, dear, dear.

Mig

No, dear dear, dear dear my friends, youкой, my people don't tell us, he's just belongs to my superiors.

RK67

confession to my great-grand launcher.

Mig

It appears to me that he's best of the kind a sk allocated to the idea of that— Well, listen, if you make some noise, I'm like M stages, I'm going with this guy for a very short while Damn hardboxer coming out of Mexico that we're gonna be able to root for it. And I was all in on them, dude. And when they first wanted him to fight Mayweather, I was like no, he still needs more experience. It was like he still needs like another year or two before he can step up to that type of a fight. And they did wait.

Lano

Yeah, because that didn't make sense, because he wasn't experienced enough to fight Mayweather.

Mig

Yeah.

RK67

At the time he fought him he wasn't ready yet.

Mig

So you're gonna do it because he wanted to get paid he would have been too much of a brawler, and Mayweather would have toyed with them.

Lano

So, and then Mina, as young as he is. So why? Why he wanted to get paid. So he takes the fight. It's simple as that.

RK67

And that's Mayweather's strategy too. I gotta take him young before he gets paid or whatever when.

Lano

if it was really him about his boxing career and the love for it and wanting to get to fight to our no, he should have been like I'm on the way to. Who cares? Who cares if Mayweather's getting old? If you don't get to fight him, you don't get to fight him. It's just you're inexperienced. Why are you gonna do it? So he was right.

Mig

He could have taken him in that fight. He could have taken him.

Lano

I mean, there's only one son out. Only one son out, I accept.

RK67

Who's that you?

Lano

know who Mickey knows.

Mig

I know, I know, but it's not coming to my mind right now.

Lano

Dude, you were telling me about him the other day. You're watching a bunch of clips about him.

RK67

A boxer.

Lano

Oh, he's not a son out.

Mig

He's just a clown.

Lano

No man, what was that fight with that? The one where he got knocked down and he winked at the damn camera, camacho.

Mig

No, Deloia Malameo.

Lano

He was like he winked at the camera. He's like he got bought man. He's a son out dude, he's a clown, but he's, you know, he's a son out he's fun to watch.

Mig

Little bad, but that guy he's so fun to watch. He fought.

RK67

Delahoya, I remember watching that, like it was on channel 13 or something like at the yeah.

Lano

He fucking took the camera.

RK67

He got knocked down and he winked.

Lano

He got took a yeah, he winked at the camera.

RK67

Oh, I gotta watch the night.

Lano

That's because they were pushing fucking Delahoya.

Mig

Yeah.

Lano

But I mean, it's like Mick said we were talking about it the other day. It's like this dude was so damn good If he were just taking his shit serious. Yeah, but you know he wanted to be a more of a showman.

Mig

So you know I never. I never watched that Delahoya special that came out.

Lano

I mean either I haven't watched it, I mean either Max, it's on Max.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we're going to watch it.

Mig

I gotta watch that.

Lano

We were supposed to talk about it.

Mig

You never bought up against the reason why he gave us his password for? So we can watch it we never did yeah.

Lano

And I just wasn't in a rush to see Delahoya and fish yeah.

RK67

But I think he talks about disappearing, but I don't remember what was the the canela fight.

Lano

Yeah, and then mostly had to be back in the movies like no, that was not gay, just he was hanging around the wrong people. Like well, I don't know, he's become a mean clown right now, man.

RK67

Well, he's still promoting, right? Yeah, you know, like his rockers. I thought he still kept fighting, like when I thought he retired. I thought he retired after. Delahoya the Filipino name Pacquiao. I thought after that he done, but he still came back and fought a couple, or maybe that was the sugar.

Lano

He came back and fought his he was fighting with his, with his fake six pack, pain it.

RK67

Pain his six pack.

Lano

Yeah, and implants put in. Is that what they do? Implants? He had implants put in the food too, so you can have a six pack.

RK67

I thought it looked like. I thought it was like sprayed on or carved, sculpted. He looks, he looks weird man.

Lano

He looks weird man. I mean, well, it's cool about going back and watching Salvador Sanchez. It just reminded me of all those damn amazing fights we saw growing up Just all around man with with Carbohol, carbohol.

Mig

Yeah, the, the Barrera brothers, the Barrera brothers, damn Brayla's brothers Brayla's brothers.

RK67

Brayla's. Um, there's something like white top ring right or something some guy like he would always bring, like like his, his group of people coming up. But it was like I mean, I used to always see all the fights, the child's fights, at the Mendoza's house, but it was like, were they every three months or what was it? By the time? We would always go over there like we watch it.

Speaker 1

Like I can't say that.

Mig

I saw Tyson fights like that, because Tyson fight, like the big Mexican fights, would either be on sequel to my or um September right September 16th around. September, mid September.

RK67

But I remember like always watching it and I don't know like do people get around and watch Canelo fight Like?

Lano

were you guys.

RK67

You said you're still throwing parties or gatherings.

Lano

And we only had one fight of this Cause.

RK67

Then he switched to like days on it and then it became hard to get Like you couldn't get all the papers or something like that, they did their own. Get the order of the subscription.

Mig

At that point I didn't really care anymore because I didn't care. After the Mayweather fight I just threw my hands up and I'm like I'm done with boxing Done.

Speaker 1

And I did.

Mig

this shit is so corrupted, it's so fake and I think, we all had that. Bought it and paid for it.

RK67

I think we all had that moment where we're just like this is just like you know whoever pays for the more money or whatever. Yeah, we don't watch. It Is um. Do you guys know anything about boxing today besides Canelo Heavyweight champ or not? Not really, I don't know, not like the old days, man.

Lano

Well, you know everybody. You know everybody was fighting who you love to watch. Fucking love watching Johnny Tapia. He was bad.

RK67

Yeah, and all those guys like Asuma Nelson, like you knew his style, you knew Trinidad style. You knew, like all the guys like, oh, this guy's good, he's crafty, he's a left handed guy or whatever this, like all those names were. Like it was all like well known, like legends. It's like you know. Like in the NBA, whenever, like the Lakers were placed on, you knew who that team. You knew like it was like Larry Bird and the Boston Celtics. You knew, like like Patrick Ewing in the New York Knicks. Now, like there's not like big stars, like because everybody's buddy buddy.

Lano

They want to get together and play with each other, because now they all with their best friend.

RK67

They all play like I mean, it's all like, like what they say, tomato cans and then there's only like one big super for like they don't fight each other like the way the other guys used to take turns fighting each other. A right, a good rivalry. Yeah, like I know, the big Canelo was that triple G or whatever.

Lano

That last fight was a joke. Oh, that's what it was, I think triple G fight. That's why that's why.

Mig

That was a joke, though, but the last good rivalry fight then, wasn't it Koto and someone else? Oh, it wasn't Delajoy, you know.

RK67

No, no, no, it was a Koto and he lost right and I think that's when I thought that he was they had three fights. Yeah.

Mig

Oh who's? The other boxer.

RK67

When I thought that's where those were. Like I just said, this is like fake. Um, most knows it was a mostly know, was a mostly pack. Yeah no, my yoga, yeah my yoga.

Speaker 1

My yoga, my yoga, my yoga yeah.

RK67

I think it's my yoga, but this is my yoga one. We got Koto my yoga.

Mig

Got it. Oh yeah, Koto and Gotti, those two dudes went out and I think big time like three fights.

RK67

I'm looking.

Mig

And I think the second one was like really controversial, the decision that came out of it.

Lano

Yeah, I think you're right.

RK67

Um. I don't see Gotti on here.

Lano

Was there three fights with my my?

RK67

or just one.

Lano

I remember the one in the end. Maybe it was Gotti and someone else.

Mig

Maybe it was Gotti and someone else, and pay per view.

RK67

Um, maybe we're there, my yoga. I don't know who that is. Martinez Canelo Judah. Um, remember, those are Gotti, were like what was his name? Miguel Gotti or was.

Mig

Gotti's first name, antonio no.

RK67

I don't remember it was like some white guy that he would fight, right, I Don't know, I can't find it, but it was like some, some mean like fights. We're like like where they would just be swinging like both of them are in our like could barely stand up in Battles. Now what? Watching those Salvador Sanchez fights the 15 rounds. I know they agree, they agree to like boxing. It's not like a set standard, right, they have to agree to the the rounds, yeah, the ring size, and then Like the glove weight and all that stuff in the wake, because, like runners, like a bigger ring and then like punches one, a smaller ring or whatever all that stuff.

RK67

Are you disappointed they moved from the 15 to the 12? Because I know, I mean, I know it's saving lives, but I just feel like 12 is like there's too many, like draws or undecided.

Lano

You think, wow, it kind of doesn't push them for their.

Mig

Tourgadi.

Lano

Our tourgadi. I mean now I would, I would, I mean I would like 15, just because I want 15 rounds of fight, you know, I mean, I mean 15 rounds just people like, like zombies, you know, like just punching.

RK67

Oh, mickey Ward and Goddy, I think that with those, those three, I'm a Goddy like. These are like Goddy made the the problem with that.

Lano

With the 15 rounds like today, I think there'll be a lot of like boring first rounds.

Mig

Yeah, well, you think it would delay?

Lano

Yeah, you get a lot of more bullshit rounds, but then to have, might have been the reason why they went to 12.

RK67

Nobody see the Hagler herds or her and sugar you know, I know, but they were, they were local 15. You know, like one guy's just like tips over like cuz, like so long I know safety reasons they move it to 12 rounds because like people were like dying in the ring and stuff.

Mig

We had it because of the whole. I Guess afterwards a CT shit.

RK67

Yeah, yeah, they're taking pounding, yeah, but I just think like this too much.

Lano

It's late rounds, when you can't even pick up their arms, and there's too many draws again.

RK67

You know you could, like you know, hide around for six rounds and and like not the score. Now are you more of a like, a, not a brawler, but like a puncher or like a boxer, like I'm in the middle dude Like yeah it's like it's gotta be a mix of both.

Mig

You know cuz yeah. You don't want a guy just to go out there swinging wildly and you know, it's like you want you want a guy to be measured. You know you want to find openings, you want to create openings. You know you want to see those three, four punch combos. You know where there's maybe like Two left hooks to the body and then when the dude brings like his arm down, then you know you hit him with an uppercut and you know it's like it's like you want to see that, you know.

Lano

It's like, yeah, a brawl here and there in the round, whatever you get a good exchange bound. Oh, but just to be like, I Mean I I would enjoy it, but I just like.

Mig

It's like going going back to sell their sanctions, the way he slips those punches and air to the counters.

Lano

You know, and then you get kind of like an exchange, yeah, where you know it's back and forth, back and forth, and then it goes back to like what, what I hated, and what they credit them for and Say he's the greatest ever because of it may was Mayweather because his ability to run yeah, you know he throws a jab and he runs.

Mig

Throws a jab and he runs. And they say, that's, you know, that's such great boxing.

Speaker 1

You know what I think? I think I.

Lano

Can't he would run yeah, I would run at times, but I think goes. I Don't think he ran as much as as per now. Whitaker.

Mig

Oh yeah for now.

Lano

Whitaker ran a lot. Mayweather was more total, told him, for now Whitaker. Whitaker is where I'm more annoyed at Whitaker than I am a weather.

Mig

I think Mayweather beat his ass, yeah, and when he caught him, it caught up and stopped him from running the beat his ass.

Lano

Yeah, mayweather, when with box more you know, yeah, yeah, he ran more ideas a lot, but a lot of it was Like going back and seeing some of it like defense, the way his defense was, and then like run out then jab, whatever you know. That's just, that's just the style. But Whitaker style do that. That would frustrate the hell out of me Because I hate it. I say like the judges.

RK67

They get bought out. It's like I don't know you fix it, cuz that that comp you box. Like you can have a guy like Whitaker I'm not with a girl like Mayweather will throw like a thousand punches, but they're all like you know pity Pat, like Like they're not like power, like connecting power shots, like so you gotta get this guy landed. Like you know 80% of his punches, you know like 300 shots, but they're just like pity Pats, like not damaging shots or just like he's touching connect him. So like I don't know how you fix it, but Like you say, like like Mayweather could just like be dodging the whole time and then, like you don't get someone to catch, at least you see these guys. Like Sanchez, you see them like like nailing shots, like moving around, like he had he had both. Like you know he's able to maneuver the compact and even in that video you said we're like they're like even like the camera frames missed it oh, Right yeah like I replay that thing like four times, like just to see.

Lano

Like I mean, you see it like I should go back, but like that was crazy.

RK67

They have to like slow mo, because it's just so compact.

Lano

It's just sweet man in there, his, his, he's get that leverage from his style was so, so nice. I mean we that, that like the 77 in the 1970 fighters, yeah, like there was some people so much good boxing going on, I mean cuz growing up. I mean we, we win this a lot of yeah. I'm a dude. Thanks, man.

Mig

But getting back to like the brawler style dude Just watching Tyson.

RK67

You think, tyson?

Mig

highlights no that dude's.

RK67

Rosh is well. I mean, he has power, but I don't know if he's a bro like oh.

Mig

I mean a brawler, I mean cuz, that's as soon as he get pissed. Forget it, dude, you're done.

Lano

That dude. I think Tyson's the greatest fighter of all time.

Mig

He's. I mean I haven't watched much of Muhammad Ali's fights or anything dude, but I Since no, I mean I mean Muhammad Ali's, like everyone says he's the greatest.

Lano

Yeah, I mean Just Tyson, dominated man is like, and I and I know Tyson, you know he, he, he gives his respect and yeah.

Mig

He says my Muhammad's the greatest, but I Mean cuz my favorite boxers, dude. Oh man, my favorite boxers, our Chavez Tyson Roy Jones Jr.

Lano

Yeah, roy Jones, those are my three right there, dude.

Mig

Yeah, I could watch those dudes. Any pay-per-view? Yeah, I would, I could watch those dudes. Yeah, and I love watching them, fight you, especially Roy Jones Jr.

RK67

I think he didn't. He didn't get like Like boring, just like not punching it it was.

Lano

It was weird, because I've always hate he was a boxer. I've always hated like hot dog dudes or touch shit talking dudes, but Roy Jones Jr Was something different dude, because he was cocking the ring, but it's just, he backed it up and I don't know, I don't know what it was with Roy Jones Jr. He just he was good.

Mig

Was he having a?

RK67

middleweight.

Mig

It was like a middleweight.

RK67

Middleweight now.

Mig

Yeah, yeah.

RK67

Like I asked my wife, like even like her brothers, like I Mean they know Tyson as the actor or like celebrity, like I don't really think they understand how good Tyson was.

Lano

They should. That's where you got a command and show.

RK67

I don't know if it's me being biased because, like he's, like the first heavyweight I seen, like you know, in my era.

Lano

Uh-huh.

RK67

I mean it's just so sad like he had to do the Buster Douglas and, like you know, not prep and then yeah, but it's like that same argument where I see it all the time.

Mig

That's not what ruined his career, dude, is that chicken though? While the trial like you know, the whole time they were in his career.

Lano

The that whole thing, how people don't realize how good these guys were. It's the whole debate where these youngsters they see they see LeBron as the greatest basketball player ever piece of crap. But you go back, I mean, and you see it all over on YouTube where they say, okay, it's Steph Curry fan, or LeBron fan. They go back and once they see that mixtape of Jordan, it's like there's no comparison. Man.

Lano

I don't care what, I don't care if he's got the most points ever by any player. It's like you're not. You can't be the best player when, when you've never dominated both sides of the ball.

Mig

And the only one that even comes close to Jordan, even you can, even can, even with Jordan's air dude is Kobe. Yeah, after Kobe there's no one.

Lano

No one.

Mig

They can even come here.

Lano

I mean, you go back. Who is it? Who's got all those championships? Is it will Bill?

Mig

Russell. Russell got like ten champion, I think like 19, that many.

RK67

Like I thought like 11 or something that's all I could be that was like 10.

Lano

I.

RK67

Think Boston has like 19.

Mig

Oh no, but yeah, I mean cuz. You. Go back, dude. You look at the 80s, 90s basketball. You know you, you think LeBron's gonna be able to do anything against the Rodman, you know, you know, don't you think he?

Lano

would, he would. Well, it's tough. It's tough because if he's in that era, his mindset is gonna be different, I so. I mean, that's how you got to look at it too. No, though, if his his, his Potter Puff thinking way right now his flopping right now.

Lano

That's another thing. You can't be the greatest of all time when you got a top, top, whatever list of flops, yep, like nah, get out here. But but I bet you, if he grows up in that era era if he grows up in that era, he's his mindset is different. He's gonna be one of the top players, like all the top players that we've seen, because his mindset would be different, because that era is different. Right now it's just the league soft, so his, his mindset is going to be.

Mig

That's true, because he probably would have been forced. Well, no, he would have been forced to go to school, yeah, and learn fundamentals.

Lano

Even one year or whatever. I mean just coming in. You know he would have a tougher mentality. I guess you got a point In this whole over the top celebrity status. So how would I?

RK67

find all the Tyson YouTube.

Lano

Just.

RK67

YouTube it.

Mig

They show them all like the full YouTube, mike Tyson, and see what comes up.

Lano

When you looked at some of those, you haven't seen other videos pop up from his.

RK67

No, I just saw the ones you sent, but I'm having dug down deep.

Lano

I mean, just would like, well, you know, you start seeing, that's the one I watched that.

Mig

I already had like two or three of them pop up in my feed, yeah.

RK67

Right.

Lano

I got a bunch of that when I was like I practice stuff popping up.

RK67

Oh yeah, my feet. Yeah, he has another appointment on Friday, so we'll get another next week. An update on his journey, another update of how'd you how'd your week feel after you? I guess pretty good, recovering from the soreness and stuff.

Mig

Yeah, the sort is all gone. Already it felt pretty good. Oh, the sort is gone. It's like the pain is like kind of starting to return Not bad Like it's been, but it's like I started to return. So I think a couple more sessions should do me good.

Lano

We'll see Friday. I gotta get you to do some crowd therapy.

RK67

Where do you go in Pasadena, because I saw this one in Pasadena, colorado.

Lano

Monrovia. I was watching what day, what day you want to go?

RK67

What day is good Well right now. Any day is good. Because, I'm not working right now. I go back in February.

Lano

All right, I'm going to call and I'm going to see You're going to feel. Are you going to keep the towel on? You feel the same way.

RK67

Well, I saw this video I was watching. The guy did it with the robot, but you said it was cheating. You're not doing the robot, we'll take the robot Three minutes, huh Three minutes. I got to just practice listening to some music for three minutes.

Lano

Pick your song that you want to.

RK67

I'm going to start practicing tomorrow Opening the fridge and just standing there Three minutes, or the freezer, open the freezer Jump in the cold shower Three minutes yeah.

Lano

You're going to start jumping in the cold shower, dude? I see this one chick on YouTube where there's little shorts, where she does an ice bath. I don't know where she lives, but she has like a tub outside in her back patio and it's all snowing outside. She breaks all the heaven and this chick gets in there, it's like oh man, she's controlling her breath pretty good. She's getting it because she's like you're going to be in the bathroom.

Lano

She gets in. I was like dude, as it is just going out. There's probably damn cold already, and then to get in this damn ice bath.

RK67

So are you doing that? You're not. You have to control your breathing. You're like focusing on that your music. I know?

Lano

Yeah, I'm tired.

RK67

You're in there and you started. What song do?

Lano

you play. I don't remember what I played.

RK67

I was thinking of a music. I was trying to maybe a la cuje mama senaki o al, just fighting it for three minutes.

Mig

Oh, and that's something about my I carry.

Lano

I mean, guess something that's going to be like, or Nelly, you're tying in here, or just like pretend like I'm sweating. I'm not in here. Stay too pocket.

RK67

So, going back to the Tyson Jordan, if any old timers want to, well, not challenges, but let us know who they think was it. Was it the black guy in the Clippers? There was, like the Jordan before Jordan. Who was he? What was his?

Lano

name the Clippers.

RK67

He was like the Clipper GM.

Lano

Oh it's the Elgin Baylor.

RK67

Any old timer, like a boxer or sports, like you say. This guy was better or like are we being biased because this is like our generation? Remember I was talking about?

Mig

Well, I mean, dude, we can only speak for what we've seen and what we know. I mean, we can go into the history and it's like, yeah, you know, there's like in the history there's, you know, of course, muhammad Ali, you know there's George Foreman, there's Joe Frazier, you know Rocky Marchiano.

RK67

Joe.

Mig

Lewis, you know it's like.

RK67

I mean. But like you go into the history books and Like I'm not a good guy, it was good, like would you say, salvador Sánchez is better than Chavez.

Lano

I think he would have been.

Speaker 1

I mean, I've been thinking about that.

Lano

I think I'm starting to think like of what I've seen, and if he would have gone further, I think he would have been. I don't think you can say that because his career was cut short.

RK67

So Carlos, if you like.

Lano

It's kind of like a Gale Sayers debate, barry.

RK67

Sanders or something. Yeah, like Carlos, do you think someone?

Lano

No, but Barry Sanders played Well, he probably would have shattered everything, but like Gale Sayers, I think he would have played like three seasons right, something like that, because his knees. Oh, really Only three.

Mig

Yeah, because he messed up his knees and back then the technology for the surgery just wasn't there. That was it.

Lano

Gale Sayers, you know. So that's why they're like Water painting too. That's what they see.

Mig

You know it's like was Gale Sayers better than Walter Payton? Was Walter Payton better than Gale Sayers? You know it's like it's kind of hard to tell, because one's career was cut short. And then who?

Lano

knows if Bo would have just made them out of the water. But his career was cut short, like we could see that, yeah, he dominated, but you can't say he's the best of all time because his career was short.

RK67

Now do you have to like just take them out of the Like, out of the contest, just because their careers are too short, like they can't match numbers? Like just remove them.

Mig

No, because? No, I mean Because you can't just say multiply that by ten. No, because you can have them in the conversation, because the potential was there.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Mig

You know, just the thing is, it remains a big. What if?

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Mig

That's the only thing. There's no certainty.

RK67

I mean the thing about, like Kareem, you know, he had the record for points and then LeBron broke it last year and Kareem, you know, played to his 40. Lebron, I think he's turning 40, or he's 40 now, I don't know yeah but, but I know he started like at a younger, like he started from high school.

Mig

But that's a, that's a. You see, okay, when it comes to records like that, that's where I'm saying that the eras matter. Yeah, because Kareem did it when it wasn't easy to score.

RK67

Yeah.

Mig

Defenses were way tougher back then.

RK67

The thing in college like they outlawed the dunk because the Kareem was too easy for him. You know the dunking was banned, so that's like something crazy too when he was at UCLA and stuff.

Lano

Yeah, it's crazy. They outlawed that, like you know.

RK67

Now the points. Like you say, like they added the three-point line, so you know people are getting more points. I mean different eras, yeah, and then LeBron's a crybaby.

Mig

So you know the league bends their knee to him and whatever he wants he gets.

RK67

You know all the Kareem's points were in the paint. They weren't like you know, three-pointers, so like that's more shots and all that stuff.

Lano

It's more, but it's not like LeBron was a three-point shooter either. So I mean he's still. What was his shot? Like Mid-range, you know he was a mid-range and dunking. Yeah, dunking. So I mean there's a little bit similarity there.

Mig

I mean, the thing too is if he's a good free throw shooter, and he's always calling fouls on them, and they're always sending them to the line and he's doing all these shots and getting collected all these, I mean a massive point of contest.

Lano

Back then there wasn't even a three-point line. Three-point line with Kareem you first started.

RK67

Well, no, I mean not when he started. I don't think there was. I mean, I don't know, that's more impressive right there. Now, quickly, just before we end this baseball, just bury buns.

Lano

I'm just like Hall of Famer. Before the steroids Yep.

RK67

But I mean just the fact that they always walked them. That kind of pissed me off, like let this guy here, let's see what he could break or what records he could. I mean, did they start walking them that was after steroids or that was pre-steroids?

Mig

After, Remember you'd always walk them After. You'd always walk them Pre-steroids. He wasn't putting them in the bleachers. He's still not better than the hammer.

Lano

Hank, yeah, not in my book.

RK67

Who broke Hank Aaron's record recently? Someone who was it? Oh, I can't even think it wasn't in my Goyer was it?

Lano

No, it wasn't. In Uh Poo holes.

RK67

No, I don't think Poo holes is that.

Lano

It wasn't from the angels. What's it named?

RK67

Well, that's Poo holes, poo holes, no not Trout Trout though. No, trout's still young still clean. Someone wasn't it recently broken? Was it McGuire?

Mig

Well, that's not recently.

RK67

I mean, well, that's old, but I thought recently it was broken. Like recently, Like last three or four years Someone whose career was to finish, I mean it had to be at the end of someone's career, Single season or career. Whatever the 758, whatever the career home runs. Wow, those buns. Was it buns? They broke it.

Lano

He passed.

RK67

Hank Aaron. Oh okay, Hank Aaron, he was buried.

Lano

But he has asterisks next to it.

RK67

No.

Lano

I mean, that's a whole other debate. That doesn't count.

RK67

The pitchers had asterisks. The hitters had a Loud or no. No, no, no.

Lano

Nope.

RK67

So who was the best baseball player in your books? Greatest baseball player or home run hitter, I mean every time, but like Babe Ruth.

Lano

Home run hitter.

RK67

Well, whatever baseball player, home run hitter, whatever, yeah, Home run hitter was Hank Aaron. Okay, is he your best baseball player?

Lano

No Best baseball player.

RK67

Now I don't really know much. I mean I know Hank Aaron had the record. He was a solid, like you know, hit 20 home runs every year or like played.

Lano

That's hard, because I mean or he was averaging 30?

RK67

Like did he have big years?

Lano

Because isn't Jackie Robinson considered the greatest?

RK67

Because, well, I think he's known for breaking the barrier, but I don't know, like career-wise or stat-wise, like who's.

Lano

No, no, but he was damn all around athlete.

RK67

But I don't think he had like any like hitting records or stolen base records or like yeah because if we're going to do all around athlete you gotta put you gotta put a DL Sanders in that conversation.

Mig

You gotta put Bull.

Speaker 1

Jackson in that conversation, I mean.

RK67

Like Shohei right now is like one of the best like they're talking about. Like you know, shohei is pretty.

Mig

The players transcend their players, yeah that dude's pretty damn impressive dude To be able to get up on the mound.

RK67

And then DH and Just put him in the beat dude. He's a big dude.

Lano

That's pretty, because I know people say like Ortiz is one of David Ortiz, but that's along the lines with Babe Ruth too, because he pitched Home run.

Mig

But like as far as like position playing and everything. I mean for the longest time, mike Trout dude has been One of the best out there recently. A lot of these kids coming up are really damn good too, but I mean, what's the guy in the Dodgers, the Betz?

RK67

Is he up there or no? Um, I mean, these guys are like MVP's. I'm like they're coming up there, like I'm in their Today's era. Is that one Soto guy like?

Mig

Nah, I think they. With San Diego, it's proven to be overrated, overrated.

RK67

Now hockey, quickly, Gretzky.

Speaker 1

Gretzky's greatest.

Lano

Because they said as hard as it could be.

RK67

He would have broke the point record just on the sys.

Lano

You gotta be more deep into it. Yeah, because I don't know about hockey players.

Mig

They're real hockey people and they'll bring up Bobby Orr and Mario Lemieux. Yeah, yeah, you know probably a bunch of old timers that we don't even know of.

Speaker 1

I don't know.

Mig

I don't know enough about hockey to offend anybody out there.

Lano

All right, I just want to but Gretzky man. But Gretzky's good, Damn Gretzky.

RK67

He's good. He should have retired with us.

Speaker 1

I don't know what to let him go.

RK67

That dude that dude. That's good. You don't get a name like the great one, like Nothing, when you start like Like, let's say like your last three or four years, you start going to three different teams. Does it diminish your career? Because I mean he was good when he went to New York and then he started playing like all these little, like teams, like extending their career. To me it kind of diminishes. But I mean now it's free agency, it depends.

Mig

If you're doing it to like, try to break records.

Lano

You know I guess, but I don't know. It depends on how you go out, like if you go out to a shitty, shitty team. I don't know.

RK67

I'm just kidding. I haven't been a Dodger game since pre-COVID and I'm thinking like, do I got to go now Because the show isn't on? Just to say like I saw one of the best.

Lano

I'll tell you one thing You're going out like a sorry producer.

Mig

And you better go to the bank and get a sorry, man, you're on your game, you're going out as a sorry marathoner. One and done that's going to be an expensive thing. You know, Ellie likes to run.

RK67

She runs like laps in the yard and I'm just thinking like what if she's one of those kids? You know, the kids that you run in.

Lano

America. Yeah, I think you guys should.

RK67

I might be the guy that runs with her, or whatever. I mean, I can't say no, but if you want to, run it, you're going to have to break the glass.

Lano

Break the glass and get the shoes. Break out the shoes. Get those on IG so people can see them.

RK67

I think you're a video, peace.

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