Episode 84 - From the Garage to the Fields: Tales of Diesel Repair and Country Life

Ever wondered what life looks like behind the scenes of a family-run car repair business? We're your hosts, Mig and Lano, and in today's episode we're pulling back the curtain on our years of hard work, revealing the nitty gritty details of starting a business and finding reliable help. Our dad kickstarted this venture after multiple layoffs, and we've been learning the ropes ever since. We'll walk you through our journey of navigating the choppy waters of entrepreneurship, the satisfaction of overcoming challenges, and the joy of continuing our family legacy.

We've got some exciting tales from our time as car mechanics, where we've learned the importance of hands-on experience over mere certification. Buckle up as we share stories about the evolving car culture, the significance of electrical knowledge in car repair, and that time when a company underestimated us, only to eat humble pie later. We'll also be sharing a slice of our life in the diesel industry, offering an insider's view on its evolution and how we've grown along with it.

But it's not all grease and grime here. We're also going to take you on a journey through our experiences of living in the countryside; a lifestyle that's as tough as it is rewarding. From waking up to the crowing of roosters to maintaining a farm in the high desert, we've seen it all. We'll compare notes on the pros and cons of rural living and even share some tips, just in case you're eyeing that idyllic farm life. So, get ready for a riveting conversation about mechanics, business, and the charm of the countryside.

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Transcript

Mig: 0:11

Welcome back to the Drifting on Arroyo podcast. This is Mig, this is Lano, and no RK.

Mig: 0:18

Six, seven just mean you dude no, rick, and it's gonna be a couple of weeks, huh yeah, cuz he's working hard working hard, getting the business going, learning what it's like to be a entrepreneur it's not easy yeah, I mean, I guess like startup costs are starting up is the hard part and then once you get going, like your two year three yeah, I mean, cuz the thing is it's like you're, you're so overloaded with work and to find good help, my good quality help, that's hard also, you know. So it's it's tough to, and we, throughout the years I mean we, me and my brother and my dad we've been in business for like over 25, 30 years, almost right, since like 1990, well you your brothers yeah, not that yeah and we've um man and all that time I think we've hired maybe like three people doing to work with us and even at that.

Lano: 1:18

But these are real people are like family friends. Cuz I'm ready, you had some.

Mig: 1:21

No, I mean they were family friends, but they, I mean they were working with us. We're paying them, you know, but I mean for whatever reason or another, and then work out or they moved on, you know now these guys, like you guys, taught them everything like they're, like they didn't know, like no, they can do some stuff.

Mig: 1:44

Only the only one that we had to teach was um one of my, my brother. He is his wife's cousins cuz he was a young kid and so with him we had to teach him. But the other couple guys that we had hired, they kind of they had a knowledge cuz.

Lano: 2:02

That's why I think I'm trying to remember, like I don't. I'm not sure if that's when you time it was named Feds or Feds or something yeah, emilio, there was Emilio too.

Mig: 2:11

Oh, emiliano, so.

Lano: 2:13

Feds was Feds or Feds, feds. Yeah, so yeah, that's what I remember. I only remember him maybe two years like quicker yeah, I mean cuz he was.

Mig: 2:23

I mean once he got his driver's license and everything. They're not a driver got his car and everything. Then you know you like spending the money and partying and shit and bigger, bigger, better things that took priority and I guess he started missing home, cuz he lives in a Mexicali. So I guess, he figured better time to move home.

Lano: 2:47

So now your dad had that, or you guys started with your dad, like the three of you guys, no, like your dad was running the business by himself, and then you guys joined them, or no?

Mig: 2:58

no, no, we're with them since day one. Oh yeah, he wouldn't done shit without us dude so we're.

Lano: 3:09

You got nothing done like how does so how did that happen? Like your dad is like, I'm sorry, the business or what.

Mig: 3:13

I mean that the thing is for four years. I mean he, he worked for an old dairy called Foremost which was really big and popular back in the day.

Lano: 3:25

I was a. That's what I'm brand like at the markets for milk and juice and ice cream, everything you know.

Mig: 3:31

It was all about Foremost. No, they. Eventually they sold out to a Swiss dairy's oh which is still around, you know. But once he did that, my dad lost all of his seniority that he had with Foremost. So he was, like, always in that danger of layoffs or like a thing? Yeah, I'll be the first one to be laid off, you know and you know, during during those times, you know there was like a lot of layoffs going on, and so where was that at the Foremost factory.

Mig: 4:03

It was not a crancho over there no, no, it was right here, dude, it was right here, right um, I was that little area right there like by Spring Street um before oh, is that where they built that new park.

Mig: 4:15

Well, not the, not the new, new one, because like a dairy farm or something, you know, you know where you cross over that bridge, like right where, like Avenue 19 and Broadway and all those intersect right there. Yeah, it's like almost like a five points. Yeah, well, right around there, like in those in that housing area in there there's well, there's like a new park that's connected to like Downey Park.

Lano: 4:36

Is that the where it was like behind there, back there? Yeah yeah, because I remember they were saying there's an old dairy farm where they called the dairy park before they know that was it so then they turned it to um into Swiss Ross, swiss dairies, you know.

Mig: 4:53

And then um, of course, when layoff times came around, you know, he was on the chopping block. And then he, after that, he went to go work for a cement company, really working like on cement trucks uh-huh but again, you know, it's like he's a new guy. You know so he's gonna be the one vulnerable to layoffs, and I think that happened twice. He got laid off twice and then, like he's got tired of it, so he just said you know, it's just, he just started up his own, his own thing and how?

Lano: 5:29

how was he at that time?

Mig: 5:34

how what's he was in his 40s, maybe before you with five kids. No, so I'm going to be just so. He's like 80 right now. So we're talking about 30 years ago. Yeah, maybe mid late forties, and I'm going to start. So you know.

Lano: 5:49

I mean, your dad always knew mechanic, like like here and there, or like how did he get into diesel? Like learning all that stuff.

Mig: 5:55

That's, that's a trip dude, because growing up I guess he he always like he would hang out, hang out in the garages and stuff, and that's where, like, where he learned to like work on cars and stuff and then, um, diesel. I don't think he learned it until he started working at foremost. Oh, it's like the truck. Yeah, cause I don't. I don't think he, I think he worked on the gas stuff that they had but then, like some of the older guys there, kind of like took them under their wing and started showing them how the diesel stuff works and everything.

Lano: 6:30

So, so that was his role like to fix the the formal strokes.

Mig: 6:34

Yeah. Oh yeah and um, you know. So he learned everything, while he learned what he learned there uh-huh. You know which. Back then all the stuff was like, so simple to compare to today.

Lano: 6:45

No computers on the truck.

Mig: 6:46

Yeah, I mean, I mean it's so easy to diagnose stuff and everything. I mean, it's piece of cake, man. But um, yeah, I mean he got to the point to where he got tired of being laid off, you know, and you're not knowing if he was going to have a job or not. So he just decided to start up his own thing. And I remember the very first um. I went with them. Yeah, I'm still in high school, oh yeah.

Lano: 7:13

I was still in high school.

Mig: 7:14

I was like a junior, a senior.

Lano: 7:16

Your brother's out.

Mig: 7:18

Yeah, my brother's already out. He's already working.

Lano: 7:20

He's been working a couple of years in warehousing, or I don't know what, not at school, like he's not in college right now.

Mig: 7:26

And, um, the very first job that we had, I remember it was, um, this guy had this piece of shit of a rig, dude, and the electrical was all messed up on it, you know. So we pretty much rewired that whole freaking rig and got it working beautifully and everything, and the son of a bitch stiffed us, dude. Oh really, Yep, he just like disappeared on us and we couldn't find them, and like thousands of dollars of work that we did to his truck. He picked up the truck and left like.

Speaker 3: 7:59

Yeah.

Mig: 8:00

I mean, I mean cause that, that's how. That's how these guys are dude. You know, the it's like, especially what they call the owner operators, which is like one guy owns his truck, you know, and those are like the most least maintained Well, they don't want to put money into the truck.

Mig: 8:17

The cheapest bastards, you know. It's like they'll spend their money on everything else except maintaining their trucks, which is really stupid, because that's what's bringing your money in opposite of Stallone and you know over the top where he takes care of the truck and upgrading and stuff.

Mig: 8:31

Yeah, you know, and I remember just that, you know we got stiffed and then after that, you know it was like my dad would just, um, he'd drive around and just try to look at companies to see like, who had like a bunch of trucks, you know, and like offer like in the yard like at first, just like offer maintenance services, you know, like changing oils and stuff like that, like simple stuff.

Mig: 8:54

And then from there, you know it, just you know it kept going to bigger and bigger jobs. And you know he established a few accounts and just got a rolling from there, you know, and then from there it's like we didn't even really have to like advertise or anything, it's just word of mouth got around. You know, it's like we got, this company was happy with us, so they recommend us to another company that they work with. You know, and you know, before we know it we got about like 15, 20 different accounts.

Lano: 9:24

Well, since I've known you. You've always like I mean, I always thought you've been into cars, like fixing cars.

Mig: 9:29

Like you know, you had your um well, you know we we had our phase. You know it's like cause, um, you know the car culture back in the day was, I think, like way better than it is today. You know it's like way more awesome. You know it's like is you go out cruising and everything and show off what you've done to your car, you know, or spend all day cleaning it and polishing it and everything, and you know it's like you do your modifications to it and you're not just out there like these idiots today.

Speaker 3: 10:02

They're doing all their street takeovers and you know doing their drifting and all this stupid crap. Yeah, you know it's um, but we were we were always into cars, you know.

Mig: 10:11

It's like cause that's the thing you know my dad always had us working on cars. It's like that's why you're into cars first, or not, because you're helping your dad like fix cars.

Lano: 10:22

Well, I mean, it's just one thing followed the other.

Mig: 10:24

You know it's like you're, you're immersed so much and into into you know the work that you start like once you get like your own car, you're like, oh man, I want to make it better. You know, it's like want to do this.

Speaker 3: 10:42

You know, and it's you know again then, once you know how to do it, you know, then you do everything yourself.

Mig: 10:48

Save yourself a lot of money that way. And yeah, I mean, that's the way it is.

Mig: 10:54

It was like everybody always tells us like, oh, you know, you guys certified, you know, this time like man, it's like we don't need certification, it's like the experience that we have Like mechanic certified, yeah, like ASC, yeah, you know that was always there was there was a period of time where where that was always a problem with one of our accounts One of our biggest accounts that we still have to this day is that they had like a, they had a manager or something and he probably had someone that he wanted to bring in to replace us because these guys supposedly were ASC certified, you know, and they knew what they were doing and for insurance purposes, you know, they needed to be certified. So we, we went out and we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we got certified for breaks and that was the most important thing was to be certified for breaks.

Mig: 11:47

And we we took the stupid test. We passed it. We got our stupid little piece of paper that says we're experts.

Lano: 11:53

Cause I think it's those schools creating like that demand, like you need this.

Mig: 11:57

Like, yeah, I mean and and it's fine they're, they're good, you know, for for people who don't know anything, you know. So for someone, entry level so they could start learning, it's like it's perfectly fine. But for someone like us that had already been working experience like five, 10 years already and in it you know, and hands on, like actually getting your hands dirty doing the stuff it's like you're not going to tell me that some kid that just read a book and took a test and passed is going to know more than I do.

Lano: 12:33

Right.

Mig: 12:34

You know, just it doesn't, it's not going to happen, you know?

Lano: 12:37

I mean, and then even if they do know more, like physically doing it. It's different from from reading the book, like different, like exactly, all of a sudden that bolt doesn't just come off like you're reading the book. It doesn't you know, it's like.

Mig: 12:50

It's like all of a sudden you're working on a truck that's been a that's spent half its life in the East Coast, where the roads are frozen and they're salted, and the thing comes with the rusted chassis and you know you can't get the bolt off, or you can't get this off, or you can't get that off. You know, because of the rest is like what are you gonna do?

Lano: 13:08

Right.

Mig: 13:08

Like what did the book tell you to do?

Lano: 13:10

Right.

Mig: 13:10

All the book didn't go over that scenario. You know it's like, or what about when you come to to a problem where there's a bad engineering and you can't reach something? It's like they don't make a tool you know to reach whatever nut or bolt or whatever you need to get to say what are you gonna do?

Lano: 13:31

Right. Your book doesn't refer to it or the wire diagram doesn't look like the diagram.

Mig: 13:35

It's been patched up and you know the white mouse or, you know, bypassed or whatever that that's where the schooling is good, because I've we've never been good at electrical, so like learning to read wire diagrams. That's where the schooling is good, like when it comes to the technical stuff like that symbols me and stuff yeah that way you can like.

Mig: 13:57

If you're doing electrical work, that makes it much easier to like, follow and trace and find your your problems, you know. But, um, yeah, other than that, I mean as far as like you know. So, getting back to the, the, this company wanting certified mechanics and it's funny because we're me and me and manual you were, we're so young dude, we were teenagers and this dude, the owner, never wanted my dad to leave us there alone. He was always like oh, your kids, your kids is like you're leaving your kids here.

Mig: 14:29

You know and I don't know what they're doing is like my dad would be like nah, calm down, you know, it's like they know what they're doing. And it's funny because the one time we shut them up and he never bugged us anymore about that is when he had brought in his certified mechanics and at that point we had already done a lot of big, major jobs from we, you know clutches we, me and my brother we'd knock them out like in three hours, having the parts there with us and having everything with us. We could knock them out in three hours, you know, between the both of us. Well, the certified guys that came took them three days to change the clutch out on a truck and when they finally got it all put together, turns out they put the clutch on backwards, so the gears went to go in. So there they go, having to take everything apart again to put the clutch incorrectly.

Lano: 15:31

And I'm sure they charged them, I'm sure they did. I mean to do it instead of like it's not, like they did it for free. I don't think.

Mig: 15:38

Yeah, no, they're not idiots like we are. You're like we've always been where. If we messed up like that, you know we're not, you know we eat it.

Mig: 15:46

You know we don't charge you more. You know for our mistakes, you know. And, yeah, and ever since that time, you know, he was like, you know what he's like. These guys do know what they're doing. So ever since that day, man, he had no problem with it, just being me and my brother, you know, and Rick would help out also on the weekends so he'd go in and make his nice little chunk of change for the weekends, you know, because it was just like mainly just um Ransom money Doing a safety inspections, you know, just making sure that the lights are all working. And you know there's no major leaks, like no major cooling, or oil leaks or air leaks or anything like that. You know so.

Lano: 16:27

But yeah, I mean, over the years I've been, we've been blessed man and God has just been good and put a ton of work in front of us, and when you, when your dad started, you said you're in high school, so you're working weekends or just after work. Yeah, I was working weekends and any vacations all day long.

Mig: 16:45

Yeah, man was working with um. He had left the job where he was working and he started working with my dad full time.

Lano: 16:54

I never knew the form of, so I always thought your dad had that mechanic and you guys just joined them. No, no, no I always thought you, so you guys kind of like grew up, like with the diesel, like yeah like changes like from whatever, like no computers, to computers.

Mig: 17:09

Oh yeah To yeah, we saw that whole laptop or whatever like growing up in the whole industry, yep, and now it's harder.

Mig: 17:18

We saw that whole evolution, I mean In the beginning, when all this emission stuff started being put in. It's like imagine the cars when they started putting all the catalytics and everything on there and the trucks were losing power and how many of them had problems, you know, and you couldn't figure out because there were so many. Like you know, you have like a little vacuum leak that you can't find, or you know it's like it's the same thing, you know. It's like it had its rough spots in the beginning, where they're trying to work out all the kinks and everything, and now the systems are pretty solid.

Mig: 18:03

They figured them out and they're pretty streamlined and they're pretty good. Now you know, but in the beginning it was difficult to figure out exactly what was going on. That would have been another time where, like schooling or taking a class, would have benefited us, but it was all. Everything was brand new. Everything was brand new that we didn't know, and the only way to survive it was to buy the scanner you know, to be able to communicate with the computers, like when your check engine light goes on. That was always my favorite question Whenever anybody found out that was the mechanic. Oh, my check engine light went on. It's like what do you think is wrong with it?

Lano: 18:46

That just means something's not working About a thousand different things. The sensor went on, that's it.

Mig: 18:51

Now you gotta find the sensor. Yeah, you know. So pre-OBD, whatever, yeah, so you know it's like having the scanner and learning how to navigate it and running tests and reading the data and knowing, knowing, like, what the data is supposed to be and when it's not that, knowing what causes that or what are the causes of it. You know that all. Really, that's a lot of things where experience really comes in handy. Because to diagnose you might have seen it before, yeah, you know. And to be able to diagnose, you know it's like because I'm telling you like these kids that are fresh out of school they're gonna hook up the scanner, get a code. Okay, let me go change that sensor. It's like, well, no, wait a minute. It's like figure out. You know, it's like, if it's a new truck, you know more than likely the sensor is not bad.

Lano: 19:46

It's like try to figure out why that code was set, you know, instead of just replacing it, yeah, instead of just replacing part right away, it might go out again, or whatever.

Mig: 19:55

And that's the thing it's like at dealerships. Protocol is they have a list of protocol that you follow. You know and you follow that list and that's it. So really like diagnosing for them is really not really diagnosing. You know so. But no we've been through it. We've seen the whole evolution.

Lano: 20:20

Your dad was with you. You worked with your dad like how many years together before he returned.

Mig: 20:25

Oh shit, by like 20. 20 years, 20, maybe 15, between 15 and 20. And when you guys started.

Lano: 20:35

You say you changed like transmissions and stuff, like, was there ever a job where you, like you guys, say, yeah, you could do it, but didn't know how to do it, and, like you just have to learn how to like buy a book, or figure out how to do it?

Mig: 20:47

All the time, dude. All the time. My dad, he would never say no.

Speaker 3: 20:54

That was his problem.

Mig: 20:54

He was like he would never say no to anything. He was like we're mechanics, but yet we'd be working on the boxes, on the floors, welding in diamond plate. It's like we don't do that, dude Right.

Lano: 21:11

Yeah, you know, it's like that's the fabrication or body work or something that's not mechanical, that's someone else's, you know but there we were, dude, we're at their drilling and welding and I hated doing that, dude.

Mig: 21:23

That shit was back breaking work man.

Lano: 21:25

Like straightened frames, yeah.

Mig: 21:27

You know, and it's like just stuff that really should be done by someone else, especially like this, and that because they do it a lot faster and they have the better equipment to do it. But yeah, you guys change tires right.

Lano: 21:41

No, that's the one thing we didn't do, because I say tire service, they do that stuff fast.

Mig: 21:44

Yeah, that's the one thing we didn't do. We didn't do tire changes.

Lano: 21:47

I mean like a tire road service or whatever they just like those guys are like pros.

Mig: 21:52

Yeah, but pretty much everything else. Man Rebuild engines, rebuild transmissions, differentials, clutches, brakes.

Lano: 22:00

Now, since we're talking about trucks, so I wanted to ask you this question. I said before we get to the phone calls, so last week I just wanted your opinion. Last week, tesla debuted their cyber trucks for sale. Do you know anything about it, or do you like it or you don't like it?

Mig: 22:18

I've seen some of those trucks and they're ugly as hell. Yeah, that's stupid thing. Yeah, it doesn't even look like a truck.

Lano: 22:28

Did you see? I sent you that video where it races a Porsche and it wins and it's pulling a Porsche.

Mig: 22:36

Yeah, I've told you, I've told you, I've seen those. I've seen on Netflix, especially where they're drag racers and they're electric. Electric cars you know, they're guys that have like beaters, you know, but they're all fixed up and everything and they go up against supercars. And I've told you about those electric things. They're fast, there's like no lag between the acceleration and when you hit the pedal and everything.

Lano: 23:06

So nothing about this truck gets you excited, or nothing, nothing.

Mig: 23:11

Zero.

Lano: 23:13

No, because to me it looks like pretty, pretty cool. Nah, like I was trying to convince my wife that we need one, because now, with the second baby coming in, we need more room for the child.

Mig: 23:24

So it has two plugs. Did that get to get afford lightning?

Lano: 23:27

It has two plugs in the back.

Mig: 23:29

That should look way better.

Lano: 23:29

A big Nemus 15 outlet like for power tools or so was the Ford lightning before All right. Well, this it came out. It came out. People were a little upset about it because it's more expensive than originally.

Lano: 23:44

They had said it was going to be, but the base model is 68,000. Oh no, so rear wheel drive only is 49,000. That's coming 2025 and it's only 250 mile range 0 to 66 seconds. And then they have the all wheel drive that's out now, which is 68,000. The engine and 48 range, 60 in four seconds, 4.1, top speed, 112, 600 horsepower. All this horsepower and torque and all that stuff. I don't know what that stuff means. But then the Cyber Beast, which is 96,320, you lose some range but it's faster. But I don't know. This looks pretty cool to me. Nah, All right, now I wanna use your truck it looks like a hot wheel.

Mig: 24:35

You would buy, like a future design cars or whatever.

Lano: 24:39

All right, so we do have some phone calls to get through, so we'll plan. They're all from Mark the Shark, so here we go.

Speaker 3: 24:47

Hey man, you guys are messing with people because I'm a little behind on the episodes. You know I ended up cutting out the last episode a little earlier on the end song come on. So A-O-G, I wanna say what's up, man. There are my friends with you, big dog, and I do pray homie. On another note, starting off this episode with Rick Costa Rica he's not here with us Kind of threw me off. That was pretty funny. You guys are a bunch of funny people over there. I like that, okay. And then you were playing with it, cause I was thinking myself I was with Rick and he's giving, so how did I miss? I thought, okay, they met through my head. They're playing with me. They're playing games, bro. That's you guys, all right.

Mig: 25:40

Not playing man. He's not paying attention.

Speaker 3: 25:42

Hey, keep up the good work, guys. How are you later? Peace.

Mig: 25:47

I thought we had to screen that pretty clearly.

Lano: 25:50

We like hinted before the show.

Mig: 25:52

Yeah.

Lano: 25:53

Well, the week before we say he's not gonna be here next week, and then the week of the show we kind of mentioned those prerecorded ricks not here, he's away. And then, like when did he listen to this episode? I don't know Cause.

Mig: 26:05

I mean, obviously it was Thanksgiving and then he was, you know, probably hearing them out of order or something, cause we're not messing with anybody's heads, dude, I know it's full disclosure.

Lano: 26:13

We put a disclaimer on that one.

Mig: 26:16

But I'm glad we were able to mess with your head.

Lano: 26:20

All right, the next one.

Speaker 3: 26:23

Hey you guys. So I want to take it back to episode 82,. Okay, you guys talk about, like, living out in the middle of nowhere and having, like you know, having to take care of property and many fences and feeding animals and being isolated. I had that life, I lived it, bro. That's three acres, two properties, high desert. I don't know, did I ever tell you guys this high desert? All right, but that's.

Speaker 3: 26:51

It Takes work, man. That shit is not a lazy man's job, that's just 100% time, 100% 24 hours. You gotta be working. You're grinding, bro. I'm feeding horses, working horses, training horses, feeding roosters, cutting roosters, checking hands, getting the hands, feeding goats, killing goats, cutting pigs. You mean many fences, you mean keeping the property weeded down, you mean hiring the graders, got equipment on site. It's no joke. It's a whole another story, bro. So to say that you do it and live it is different than really actually doing it. Right now I live in the two story of Fontana. I like I live right next to me, like I high five each other. We're taking a shower, looking at each other's eyeballs. You know, I kind of like it, I like it. It's a little hard work, but I'm just saying you guys gotta check it out and live it before you say you can do it. It's a whole another thing, big dog. Later I'll be.

Mig: 27:54

Well, mark, I mean, I know exactly what it involves, you know. That's why I'm saying you know it's like given given the choice of, I mean, if I'm gonna be able to live out there and make my own living, like just tending to the animals and all that. I know it's hard work, I know it's a job, you know. But that's the whole beauty of it, you know, is that you're out there, you're providing for yourself. You know it's like you're working your ass off, but then you're on the end you do see the results of it, you see the fruits of your labor, and that's the thing it's like. Well, yeah, you know, it's like right now, as old as as well I am, you know it's like it's gonna be a lot harder for me, obviously, you know, and all I want to do is just chill and relax. But I mean, if I was like a younger man, you know, then absolutely I would have wanted to live. That you know. But then you know you're also when you're young, you know you just want to party and everything. But I'm saying having grown up, you know, having we're, having lived in an era where that's where your life was, you know, I would have been completely content with that. You know it's like.

Mig: 29:10

Or even even now, you know like if you go in retirement and you just, you know, have a farm and everything. It's like not necessarily something big where you're trying to run a business or something. You know it's like if you're retired and you have some sort of income coming in from, like pensions or whatever, and you got to do like a little bit to maintain the place. You know I could do that also. You know it's like, because I'd much rather get up and, you know, feed animals and then go fix a fence or everything throughout the day and you know, and do that, then have to deal with traffic and all these knuckleheads here in the city and everything. You know it's like I'd much rather do that, dude, than have to live here.

Lano: 29:56

I think like you get used to it, you get accustomed to it. Where, like you get that farmer's strength, you know what? I mean, yeah, you're doing it every day over and over and like they're like I mean I'm assuming because it's hard work you're going to get tired, so you're going to fall asleep earlier and then you're going to wake up earlier.

Mig: 30:17

You got these people who are in the city, like I got insomnia because you're not doing nothing all day long your body's not physically tired, so you're up all day long and I agree with you 100% it's not for a lazy man, it's not a lazy man's. You know life to live. I agree with you 100%.

Lano: 30:34

I mean, I think we need more to the story was was he working or was that his work, like, did he have something else he was doing? He's coming home and doing all that work, or was that his job maintaining the horses, or like? I need to hear more of Mark, like, at this time what were you? Was this your job, I mean, or were you growing up in it? Yeah, were you growing up in it? Or was this work where you signed?

Mig: 30:55

those were like your chores and stuff, or or yeah but two two.

Lano: 31:00

He said he had two acres in the high desert, three acres, three acres. And then what happened to that property?

Mig: 31:05

The salad, see, but in the high desert. I don't know about the high desert man, I kind of want to be somewhere more mountainous. High deserts um Little more foresty, like what is it?

Lano: 31:14

Um Apple Valley and stuff, or what's the high desert? Yeah, yeah, that's kind of like a weird area, yeah, but let us, let us know more. I want to see what you're doing. How old were you? Were you like, like, like, like me he said like were you trying to party all night long and and do all this stuff? Or were you older, was that your job? Were you selling horses or whatever? You know um selling eggs or whatever, breaking in horses or whatever you said you were doing, picking off fences Cause, cause I didn't tell you, miggie, but I started watching Yellowstone.

Mig: 31:48

Yeah.

Lano: 31:49

Two episodes in, so it just barely. We barely started yesterday. Two episodes in, and like, that life looks like the life I want to live. Like, right, yeah, like I mean, they're breaking in horses, I'm at their. Their job is the cattle, right, yeah, the cattle. So that's how they make their money. You know, that's what they like. He had a line where he says um, if you knew how much money we spend to keep you guys alive, for we could sell you guys later, or something I don't know. He's talking about the, the cause. I guess times get thin, right, so they have to feed the cattle during the winter or whatever, and you're just trying to keep them alive so they could get fattened up, so you can sell them later, or something like that. Right, so I needed to know more from work about this, this life. He lived in the high desert, All right.

Mig: 32:38

So call back homeboy.

Lano: 32:39

Call back. Maybe next week call in.

Speaker 3: 32:44

Hey guys, who's the biggest A-hole? The dude who uses the Q-tips and leaves his dirty, waxy Q-tips on the counter, or the guy who clips his toenails and just leaves them all over the floor right there?

Mig: 33:01

Both of them dude, cause they're both freaking pigs. They're both pigs they're all that stuff in the trash man.

Lano: 33:07

There's no which one Me? The toenails hurt me more than the earwax.

Mig: 33:13

Ah, both of them, dude. I mean what the hell, dude, throw that shit in the trash Cause.

Lano: 33:18

I mean why?

Mig: 33:19

why? Why are you?

Lano: 33:19

being so lazy. The Q-tips, I mean you got two, maybe like Maxon, like like once for each year and then, but the toenails is all over the place, like then there's like grime in them and I don't know. I choose that, but I wonder what he would cause them to To think about that. Yeah, maybe like a week with Rick and Costa Rica got annoyed or something.

Mig: 33:42

You trimming or are you trying to trim up on Beatles' claws or something there? Mark Is toenail claws.

Lano: 33:52

All right, yeah, so that's it. So I guess we'll have a quick show and then we'll come back next week. We'll let's let's look at some holiday movies.

Mig: 34:04

Well, I guess some ideas are pretty good ones. So good ones, yeah, some kind of like that we forget they're. Well, I guess they're. They're not classic like holiday movies, but they take place during and no, I'm not talking about die hard.

Lano: 34:17

That's all the same, You're talking about die. I still haven't seen die hard.

Mig: 34:21

But I got some ideas.

Lano: 34:23

All right, we'll play that. We'll say that for next week for the next show Sale vale Hope you all enjoyed it.

Mig: 34:35

Keep on drifting, yo Peace.